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Richer Forum Post Styling

31 Jul

Forums posts now have richer styling options.

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  • Many new format styling are now available within forum posts. New formats includes easier quoting, strike-through, numbered and un-ordered lists, horizontal rule, and centering.

If the new formatting is causing any issues, please report back so we can improve and iron out any bugs.

 
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Posted by on 07/31/2012 in forum

 

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36 responses to “Richer Forum Post Styling

  1. Kikurukina Bal Des'cagel

    07/31/2012 at 11:36 pm

    I have a suggestion: when we click reply on a post, can we have it automatically quote the post we’re replying to? It would clear up a lot of confusion in active threads.

     
    • Lorraine

      08/01/2012 at 10:00 pm

      I don’t think that’s a good idea… it would be a problem for RPing threads where the quoting would clutter up each post, and also for threads in which you aren’t responding to a specific other post. I think it’s better to manually quote the post you’re replying to if that’s what you need to do.

       
      • alixe75

        08/02/2012 at 5:17 am

        And some people quote the whole post to answer only to a little part. Not very nice

         
    • Astra

      08/03/2012 at 10:03 am

      I personally don’t agree with that. What would you do if you weren’t replying to any posts? Like if you wanted to say something unrelated to the conversation, you aren’t going to want to quote someone else’s post that has nothing to do with your’s. Plus, you might have to reply to multiple posts at once. You can always just use @ to address who you’re speaking to.

       
  2. Jacob

    07/31/2012 at 11:54 pm

    When posting using Google Chrome v21, if you copy/paste part of a post in the reply box and it’s blue, you can’t properly quote it without editing the post.

     
    • Xing

      08/01/2012 at 1:16 am

      What do you mean by blue?

       
      • Brad Hawk

        08/01/2012 at 4:26 am

        The text isn’t blue, it’s purple. It’s just like highlighting but in purple.

         
      • Mussor

        08/02/2012 at 4:08 am

        A image to show what Jacob is saying: http://i50.tinypic.com/xglhmc.jpg.

        If you copy the text of a post before going to a reply page and pasting the content there, it will cause the text to have a purplish background, the html source is showing a background-color tag being added to the style attribute which is causing the problem.

         
    • Xing

      08/02/2012 at 4:22 am

      This is caused by two external issues.

      1) The background color in paste is a preview issue/limitation. The editor window will at times incorrectly display your post and that’s why we have a separate “preview” button for maximum accuracy. If you click on preview, the blue colors will be gone and is truly reflective of the final output.

      2) There appears to be a Chrome or another third party software issue where sometimes when you paste and try to quote some portion of the pasted text, nothing happens.

       
  3. Guest

    08/01/2012 at 3:45 am

    Very nice! I can’t wait to try the new features out. Thank you, Xing. :)

     
  4. reynard

    08/01/2012 at 8:13 am

    I want to complain. I am searching for beta-readers. I’ve got many on my list. But many of them haven’t updated their profile and story…like 2 years. Most of beta-readers that I search are unactive.

    I have a suggestion: Could you list beta-readers by their activity? The most active ones goes first at the list and the most unactive one goes the last. I wish there is some option like that.

     
    • Lord Kelvin

      08/01/2012 at 8:54 am

      The extra formats are lovely, but the additions allow members to create HUGE fonts. Someone managed to make a post with Georgia 48 while the rest of the forum has regular-sized text. Is this intended? Can provide a link if necessary.

       
    • Guest

      08/01/2012 at 9:29 am

      I understand your frustration with the beta-reader system. I won’t even consider contacting a beta when they have dozens of spelling and grammar errors in their profile. If they won’t put any effort into their profile, why should I trust them with my writing?

      I’m not sure how active your fandoms are, but you might be able to find someone there. Put a short author’s note in your story, post a request in a forum or contact a reviewer who leaves constructive feedback. By striking up conversations with fellow fans, I met my terrific beta and became a beta for others.

       
      • yemi hikari

        08/01/2012 at 3:32 pm

        Not all Beta’s specialize in spelling and grammar though, some specialize in plot and characterization. Sometimes the spelling and grammar issues aren’t because the person isn’t trying to put an effort into their profile but because the persons weak point happens to be spelling and grammar while they’re strong in plot and characterization. That also said, I’ve seen Beta’s whose grammar is strong but they are horrible when it comes to plot and characterization.

         
      • Guest

        08/02/2012 at 5:19 am

        Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses when it comes to writing, but much of what I see is a blatant disregard for the English language.

        There is no excuse for continually refusing to capitalize the first letter of a sentence, refusing to capitalize ‘I’ and using text speak (c instead of see, u instead of you, etc.). These are all basics we learned in grade school. I don’t know the ages of the users who have these profiles, but how do they expect to go to college or get a job writing like that?

        Out of morbid curiosity, I sometimes peek to see what these betas have written. It makes me cringe to see entire stories written this way with not one person commenting in the reviews to fix it.

        We are all human and make errors (me included), but this dumbing down go far beyond innocent mistakes. I’ve worked with authors whose first language is not English – they grasp the basics quickly and make an effort to improve, while authors from the United States continue to put out this dreck.

         
      • yemi hikari

        08/02/2012 at 1:24 pm

        @ Guest – Oh boy… even I don’t do that…

         
      • Guest

        08/02/2012 at 1:44 pm

        @yemi hikari – You must not have stumbled across some of the beta profiles I’ve seen. :)

         
      • yemi hikari

        08/02/2012 at 4:37 pm

        @ Quest – Only once, and that was when some one spam posted a story and changed the characters names for EVERY single fandom they wanted to Beta for.

         
      • Guest

        08/02/2012 at 5:08 pm

        @yemi hikari – Yikes! That’s bad.

        So far, I haven’t seen any stories spam posted or plagiarism. The smaller fandoms I’m involved with are very supportive and friendly. For the larger fandoms, I’m drawn to the smaller niches.

         
    • yemi hikari

      08/01/2012 at 3:24 pm

      Or the site admins can move a Beta profile to inactive status if they haven’t logged into the site for a long time.

       
  5. Laora

    08/01/2012 at 12:19 pm

    Hey, I’m not sure if this is due to the new forum formatting options or the addition of the spellchecker (probably the latter), but I used to have a spellchecker installed on my Chrome browser that I prefer over the site’s (mostly because of the “style errors” it keeps finding in my writing). I’m pretty sure when the site spellchecker was first launched, Chrome’s worked fine, but today when I logged on it’s not working. It’s finding things on other websites so that’s not the problem…

    The spelling/grammar check is a great idea for people who have trouble with those things and want feedback constantly on their grammar, but it’s a little irritating when it says I’m constantly using passive voice when that’s really the only option. I’m not sure what would be disabling the browser spellcheck, but if you could somehow fix that, that would be fantastic :)

    Thanks so much for all your work on the site!

     
    • Lorraine

      08/01/2012 at 10:02 pm

      I had this same problem – both my spell-checker (I use Safari) and the site’s worked yesterday, and now only the site’s does…

       
  6. Ray

    08/01/2012 at 1:02 pm

    That was a nice update…
    But I have a suggestion. On the profile pages, can you show the book covers when you’re listing the stories as well?

     
    • yemi hikari

      08/01/2012 at 3:33 pm

      That would be nice along with a turn off feature for those who don’t want to see the covers.

       
      • konarciq

        08/02/2012 at 10:05 am

        I’ll second that – both having the book covers on the profile pages (where they belong in my opinion) and the ability to turn them off!

         
  7. Astoria25

    08/01/2012 at 3:18 pm

    Xing, I’m currently editing a story in Spanish (I’m a Spanish language user), and I’ve got an issue with saving this change: “?!”

    In Spanish, to write a question like “¿¡…!?” and “¡¿…?!” is entirely correct (it implies some strong emotion as well as a question), yet I cannot save these changes, if I input it like “!?” it gets saved as “!” and if I input it to “?!” it gets saved as “?”, instead of saving it properly.

    True, I *could* use “¿….!” and “¡…?” which are both correct but it’s not frequent, and I’d rather use something my readers are comfortable reading.

    Do you think you guys could figure an answer to this? (I’ve already triend changing the grammar/spell check/whatever to Spanish and I still got the same issue).

     
  8. myrddinlefay

    08/01/2012 at 4:19 pm

    OK… sometimes we get reviews from people with their PM switched off! And a lot of the time they (stupidly) ask questions (without knowing we can’t answer). Now, we could answer in an authors note but as authors why should we?

    Can’t you make it so we can reply to reviews to people with PM’s turned OFF?

    Also, when I click the link to review in the email alert it doesn’t write in the subject box, ie: “review reply: story name” etc. so maybe you could make it so it does. Though, I think my top concern is more pressing.

    Thanks,

     
  9. Shawnesty

    08/01/2012 at 5:37 pm

    Sorry if this isn’t the place to ask this, but can anything be done about an “author” who steals ideas from the other writers in a fandom? I’m not talking like general ideas, but very specific stuff that is distinctly in one person’s story series and nowhere else. This “author” fills her plot out by stripping scenes from the show episodes, rewriting them just a bit to cram her stupid Marysue into them, plus she also mines the works of another writer on the site. The other writer is a friend of mine and I hate to see her hard work getting stolen by someone who’s too lazy to try to come up with their own ideas. I’ve notified my friend of the theft and she says she’s contacted the site admins…there’s something like five or six very definite and specific ideas this other “author” has stolen from her, but since it’s not a word for word plagiarism, can anything be done? When confronted on the issue, the other “writer” disavowed even reading any of the stories she borrowed from, despite the fact that some of her scenes are written nearly the same as my friend’s work. And this “author’s” reviewers condone it, they’ve backed her up by saying that writers should be honored and flattered when someone steals from them like that, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, after all, and they’ve admitted they all do this kind of crap in the other fandom they’re all in. So I’m wondering, is there anything that can be done to protect our works from such thievery?

     
    • Blue-Inked Frost

      08/01/2012 at 6:09 pm

      Plagiarism can be difficult to substantiate if the similarity is more in the ideas and less in the direct quotes–after all, as fanfic writers who work in the same fandoms, sometimes we have similar ideas. Over on Livejournal, there’s a community: stop-plagiarism.livejournal.com . The people there work to get proof of plagiarism allegations in fandom.

       
      • yemi hikari

        08/01/2012 at 6:39 pm

        Seconded here. They’re really good at picking out if a story is actually inspired or copied too.

         
      • Shawnesty

        08/01/2012 at 6:56 pm

        Cool, thank you for the link! I will pass it along to my friend. What makes it at least borderline plagiarism in my eyes is the fact that the plagiarist wrote her scenes nearly exactly like my friend’s scenes, the action sequencing is almost identical, but not word for word copying. And they’re very specific details that aren’t common in other works, in the years I’ve been active in that fandom, I’ve never seen stories with the exact same circumstances in them like that. And it’s a pretty small fandom, with only about four or five current writers in it, so it’s pretty clear that’s what this “author” has done in order to reap praise and credit for something she didn’t work at achieving.

         
      • Lamb

        08/02/2012 at 2:41 am

        Glad this livejournal group has been suggested. While determinations made on Stopping Plagiarism have no binding influence on what happens on FFN, it makes not just one but a whole lot of fandoms aware of what’s going on. It gives people a specific venue to take their concerns.

         
  10. Kat

    08/02/2012 at 12:22 am

    Removing quote formatting is difficult without editing the html itself.
    But thank you so very, very much for the bullets, numbering, and strikethrough.

     
  11. Cole

    08/02/2012 at 12:43 pm

    My Spell checker doesn’t work now on FF… Why not? The internal spell checker isn’t very good. Use Chrome’s or remove it please. It’s more of an inconvience then a helper.

     
  12. Astra

    08/03/2012 at 10:09 am

    The new settings are cool, though is it possible to bring the post limit on forums back down to 5,000? I’m not even sure what the limit is anymore. I’m guessing it’s 20,000 with most forums will take forever to reach. It also makes it a lot harder to locate old posts, since there’s so many. Still, thank you for the strikethrough, centering, and bullets.

     
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