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IE 9 Fix

27 Aug

Fixed

  • Misc/random bugs with certain navigation features for users with IE 9 browsers. Issue was caused by an updated 3rd party software package (jquery 1.8.0) which introduced new bugs. We have since downgraded to the previous known good version.
 
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Posted by on 08/27/2012 in bug

 

52 responses to “IE 9 Fix

  1. Shooting Sword

    08/27/2012 at 5:11 am

    I would love to be able to while searching the archives select more than one fandom, and then for each fandom up to 2 characters. This way I can search through all of my fave fandoms at the same time while bypassing everything I don’t read, as well as searching under my fave characters.

    Thanks Xing, I don’t use IE and never will as its slow and stupid lol, but with this fix you’ve hopefully satisfied all of those complaining about it.

    *Thumbs up!*

     
    • Jan

      08/27/2012 at 7:22 am

      Thanks Xing, IE seems to be working better now.

      Shooting Sword – we weren’t complaining about it, we were advising the site admins of a potential technical issue with the system and what it was affecting. If they don’t know that we are having problems then how can they fix it? I dare say that if it was your system that wasn’t working right, then you would be telling Xing too.

       
      • Shooting Sword

        08/27/2012 at 7:40 am

        I didn’t say you shouldn’t complain.I was just commenting on a lot of it. :) … I sure would complain if Chrome weren’t working right. (Touch wood,it only seems that IE has so many problems). IE actually takes about 5times longer to load anything that either Firefox and Chrome on my main computers. Anyway, since I use multiple systems Chrome is best because of its Google sync so I can have all bookmarks, passwords, usernames etc., so I have everything at all my computers without having to do it over.

         
    • yemi hikari

      08/27/2012 at 8:32 pm

      Took me awhile to get what you were asking for. That kind of search would be nice for those trying to look through smaller fandoms. Don’t know how easy it would be to code though.

       
  2. Guest

    08/27/2012 at 10:08 am

    Thanks, Xing! I use IE9 at work, so I should notice the improvements when I peek at my favorite stories during lunch. :)

     
  3. UltronMaximus

    08/27/2012 at 10:32 am

    You’re still not deleting the trollficsand the rule-breaker stories I report. Must I be a part of the Literate Union or another similar group for you to delete the stories that break the rules?

     
    • Shooting Sword

      08/27/2012 at 11:11 am

      Can I ask why you care so much? It sounds like you’re wasting your time checking on these fics you report. Unless its about someone harassing you, or stealing your work I don’t see why you or anyone should care to go out of your way just to get something removed. Now don’t go saying the usual, ‘but they break the rules etc.’, I don’t care. Are you Xing? Its for Xing and team to alternately care.

      I’ve been thinking about it for a while now, and every time I try saying that these critic groups should give it a rest. I’ve decided that I shouldn’t care. Even though the pro-critics groupers that have ‘defended’ them here just say, ‘oh but you don’t know what you’re talking about, they don’t do that, yada yada!”‘ and don’t give anything solid.

      So I want to know from someone who is wasting time checking and complaining about it? Is it a power buzz? Will it make you feel big? I’m not defending things like trollfics or song-fics or whatever? If it doesn’t affect you directly why care so much to waste your life and time?

      Well, thanks,

       
      • Guest

        08/27/2012 at 12:40 pm

        Thank you Shooting for asking those very questions that everyone else on the site has been asking!! We all would like to know why you care and waste your life going out and searching for bad fics just to report them? Its not like you stumble upon one or two, your group sets their life to searching for these “troll fics” just so you can all report and get it taken down. Why not try writing a story yourself so you’re life isn’t so boring and pathetic as you people say it is or make it out to be.

         
      • Miss Mess

        08/27/2012 at 1:17 pm

        Have you seen how many non-stories spam the site with their announcements,OC requests,competitions,etc? It’s a headache to sift through all that stuff,not to mention all the actual stories are hidden under unnecessary crap that isn’t even allowed.

         
      • Shooting Sword

        08/28/2012 at 9:26 am

        So you’re saying you want to go around WASTING your time hunting for non-stories and crap, spam etc., because these people have been wasting your time? Feel free to report something that you come across while looking for something to read. However, what I’m saying is don’t go out of your way (or make it your mission) to make sure that ‘fic’ is gone. That just seems sad. OK, I’ll understand if this author has stolen from you or a friend or someone you’re a fan of, or something similar like been overly abusive etc, but not for something stupid like an authors note chapter halfway through (though I hate those), or even worse notes spread out throughout a fic telling us stuff they should describe or leave for the end. Report them if you feel its your duty but then leave it at that.

        I have come across the odd request made story or someone shouting out a challenge when if they really wanted to they should use the challenge forum or at least write a chapter and put the challenge at the end. However, those things tell you what they are in the summary so I just skip even clicking them because they’re mostly a waste of time with a mundane idea.

        I’m not complaining about reporting. I’m complaining about people who will check back at the fic they’ve reported religiously, and if its not gone then report it again and again, and then complain that admin aren’t doing anything like they should be in charge! It seems a waste of effort to be that involved, and personally I feel like it comes off as an attack.

        I’ve had someone trying to plagiarise one of my fics. I just reported every chapter once, and told them why, and then I emailed them about it and waited even though since it was personal theft I felt like I should have reported it everyday. However, halfway during day three I got a reply back thanking me and that the plagiarised story had been removed, so I know they take things seriously.

        This is why I believe they prioritise things differently and for plagiarism they’ll give high priority and be content and fine with one report and see to it fast, but with other stuff they’ll let it slide longer and may wish for other pen-names to complain/report it too. This way they don’t have to go over everything reported.

        This is also a reason NOT to gang up on a story because they might only look at the 20/25 reports and take your word over actually looking to see whether the rule-break is there or even worth it without realising that only one or two of them actually read/tried to read it.

        (You know for a reply about not wasting time I sure did waste a lot here, but honestly, right now I’m not working so had a little spare time). ;)

         
      • KageNoNeko

        08/28/2012 at 10:42 am

        @MIss Mess, +1. That is exactly why I warn people with rule breaking crap and then report once they don’t rectify the problem. The treating of real people as if they are fictional characters is something that bothers me.

         
      • anonlulz

        08/27/2012 at 1:19 pm

        Shooting Star, do people who report crimes feel a power boost? Or want to feel big? Or maybe, unlike some people, they want to do the RIGHT thing.

        Just because you want to sugarcoat bad writing and bad story placement, doesn’t mean the rest of us have to do the same.

        Personally, I don’t go out of my way like the groups everyone complains about, but if I read a story that is not complying with the rules of the website, I’m not going to look away.

        My stories all comply with the rules, and I didn’t have to go out of my way for them to do so.

        The real power buzz fans seem to be some of the so-called BNFs declaring they’ll move their stories to crappy non-fiction friendly websites like Blogspot. I sure as heck don’t go to FFNet only to be directed elsewhere.

        And it DOES affect us all directly. The more crap we allow, the less organized the website is.

        Unless, of course, your idea of a fair world is allowing everyone to run the red light, shoot everyone for no reason, and let monkeys write what we read. In that case, continue worshiping chaos.

         
      • Shooting Sword

        08/29/2012 at 4:23 am

        Did you NOT read what I put. I didn’t say stop reporting. I just said once reported don’t WASTE your life bookmarking it and fighting tooth and nail to have it gone! Read before you reply.

         
      • konarciq

        08/27/2012 at 3:18 pm

        @Shooting Sword: Well said!

         
      • UltronMaximus

        08/27/2012 at 4:43 pm

        So, I take it you have rule-breaking fics or support them? What is your favorite interactive Truth or Dare? Or your favorite “characters read novel” examnple of plagiarism? Or do you get high on songfics? If the administrators didn’t want us to report, they wouldn’t ask members to police the site themselves.

        You must be too naive and still in elementary school if you really think Xing and his team can monitor the site (which is huge) by themselves.

         
      • Shooting Sword

        08/27/2012 at 5:22 pm

        You must be a moron because that isn’t what I said. I said that if you’re so interested in getting rid of fics over writing or reading your obviously a loser without a life. You are NOT paid to hunt for ‘defyers’. Then you’re complaining because your reporting isn’t getting rid of fics. If you had read some of my other posts I’ve said I’ve read and liked song-fics but I had skimmed the songs because I think the song takes from the fic.

        I don’t care about searching for rule breakers. If I come across a fic I don’t like (unlike you I wont) search for a reason to report it!

         
      • UltronMaximus

        08/27/2012 at 5:53 pm

        @Shooting.

        *Sigh* It’s not as if I look for them, child. I bump of them all the time in the categories I visit. And I only report stuff that does break the rules; what, do you think I’m as shallow minded as you?

         
      • Shooting Sword

        08/27/2012 at 6:07 pm

        I’m probably older than you!

         
    • Pierce

      08/27/2012 at 2:25 pm

      They must get hundreds, or thousands, of reports daily – even critic groups have to wait days or weeks for stories to get removed. Of course, the more reports, the more the story gets pushed into view (which is quite logical, if you ask me). The tips I can give you is (a) keep track of the stories you report; report them daily (and if the story has more than one violating chapter, report all), (b) send a mail to the admins with all the stories as soon as you get a reasonable amount (sending a mail for every story would be too tedious, after all), or (c) look around the critic forums and see if any of them accept outside tips. I know that Critics United has the Tip Line, but I don’t really know about the others.

      The admins are – probably – objective enough not to have favorites; considering that members of a critics group don’t end their reports with “member of [name]“, I’m fairly sure they don’t even know if the one reporting belongs to one or not.

       
    • KageNoNeko

      08/27/2012 at 3:07 pm

      @UltronMaximus, I have found that it is way easier to just send an email to support with all of the rule breaking fics. It is also easier for the staff to know about all of those rule breaking fanfiction.

       
      • UltronMaximus

        08/27/2012 at 4:48 pm

        @Pierce and KageNoNeko

        Thanks, I’ll try those strategies instead of normal reporting.

         
    • The Imaginatrix

      08/27/2012 at 4:05 pm

      (Sigh.) I am quite frankly getting sick of all these complaints about this. I make a point of reading the entire comment thread before I post anything, and I’ve witnessed so many stupid arguments about this it’s becoming ridiculous. If the fic you’re reporting is actually breaking the rules, it will be dealt with. If YOU think it’s breaking the rules, but Zing knows it isn’t, then get over your sweet self already. I, for one, won’t be going around finding stories that violate rules, because I’m too busy looking for stories I LIKE TO READ. I encourage the good writers and flat ignore the bad ones, personally. Try doing that some time instead of making others feel like crap. There are many far better ways to make a difference in this world.

       
      • UltronMaximus

        08/27/2012 at 4:47 pm

        I think you should write Xing’s name correctly. And I can’t be to blame if the categories I visit are full of songfics and trollfics and interactive stuff. Ever heard of Hetalia and Vocaloid?

         
      • izraill

        08/27/2012 at 5:55 pm

        @UltronMaximus I am a fan of Vocaloid and I know what you mean, but I just ignore the bad stories and awful songfics. If you go and check them to review or report their hit count raises and that’s what makes them keep writing and uploading things like that. It’s like when everyone wanted to take down Justin bieber’s baby from youtube. Yes, I would like to take that down, but going to the vid just to dislike it would give it another view.

        So, Ignore them and encourage others to ignorre them. When they see their Story isn’t being read or reviewed they will stop writing and there will be a moment when the amount of those stories becomes so low that you’ll not notice them.

         
      • The Imaginatrix

        08/27/2012 at 6:12 pm

        I did not know I was mispelling Xing’s name. I am blind, and was spelling it the way my screen-reader said it. Thank you for pointing that out.
        I am not familiar with the fandoms you mentioned, so I will probably never read or write for them. What I said earlier does not refer only to you, but to everyone who has complained about this sort of thing since the blog was established. I don’t condone rule-breakers; far from it. I just wish people would listen to regular posters like Yemi Hikari who point out that some reports the admins receive are sent by people who don’t like the author because they gave them bad reviews or something rather than the story actualy breaking the rules. I’m not saying that’s you, either; I’m just making a point. And then there’s the fact that some of the guidelines are not as clear as we would like them to be. So fics we might think are breaking the rules (not talking about songfics here–that one is abundantly clear) might not be doing so, while others we might think are just fine might actually be violating one of the rules.
        And here I am being a hypocrit. I’ve gotten myself involved in one of these debates now.

         
      • konarciq

        08/27/2012 at 6:20 pm

        Or maybe once you’ve reported a severely rulebreaking fic, you could just ignore them, *and let others decide for themselves*. How does that sound?

        IMHO, it’s indeed our job to *alert* admin to severely rulebreaking fics when we come across them, because on a website this big they simply cannot possibly keep an eye on every fandom. But it’s not our job to be policing the site – that’s *their* responsibility!

        And explicitly encouraging others *not* to read certain stories simply isn’t fair. Let each and everyone of us make up their own mind!

         
      • Shooting Sword

        08/27/2012 at 6:22 pm

        I applaud your words!

         
      • konarciq

        08/27/2012 at 6:24 pm

        @ Imaginatrix: believe me, the definition of “songfic” isn’t all that clear cut either. Considering the lengthy discussion of just that a few threads back…

        And just for clarity, my previous message was in response to Izraill’s “ignore them and encourage others to ignore them” – not to your post that is right above mine! That’s what happens if we can’t reply to each message here separately…

         
      • The Imaginatrix

        08/27/2012 at 6:45 pm

        At Konarciq: I’ve simply accepted the fact that I’m not allowed to have copyrighted song lyrics in my stories and moved on. On another fanfiction site specifically for one fandom I’m interested in, there was a story that contained–and I kid you not–the lyrics to every song in one album by the Backstreet Boys! Not only was that violating loads of laws, but it was about the most tedious thing I ever had to scroll through, and it added no colour to the story at all! I admit, I used to do similar stuff, but I know I’m not allowed on here, so I won’t do it. Just sayin’.

         
      • izraill

        08/27/2012 at 9:14 pm

        @Konarciq, I guess you’re right, but I don’t like paying attention to bad fics I just inflate their hit counts and I cant just add the link of the stories in an e-mail if I haven’t read the story.

        @The Imaginatrix: I’ve seen worst fics, that’s why I prefer ignoring them. And accepting that I can’t use song lyrics was hard to me (it required 2 of my stories being removed and an argument in previous entries of this blog) but Rules are made for a reason.

         
      • konarciq

        08/28/2012 at 2:04 pm

        @ Izraill: now you’re talking sense again :-)

         
  4. Lynx Klaw

    08/27/2012 at 11:41 am

    I am not sure where to leave this comment/request type thing, but I suppose here might work. I also hope this doesn’t post as a reply to someone else’s post here. Hate to give them false hope that someone was replying with relevance to whatever they last said. Heh.

    Anyway! I noticed recently that FFnet went completely sans-serif. I was wondering why this decision was made.

    I have nothing against sans-serif, people who like sans-serif, or the like. I imagine it’s useful and quick for smart phones and the like. Personally, however, I prefer serif fonts for my reading on a desktop. I can easily tell the difference between a capital i, ‘I,’ and a lower-case L, ‘l.’ In a sans-serif font like Arial or Verdana, they look the same.

    Granted, I know context can sort this stuff out. If you read “I’ll,” you know it’s not “L’ii” with capslock on or something. However, serif fonts are simply more legible for me. I like seeing those little feet on a characters; I’ve always been a fan of the tried-and-true Times New Roman, with a favoring of Book Antiqua otherwise…

    And yes, that’s just my personal opinion on the matter, but I would love to know why serif fonts were removed. And, if it’s at all possible, could we get that back? You already have a shrink-and-expand menu for font-choosing (they’re just all sans-serif, now). What would one more option hurt?

    I know, I know, sometimes websites can be finicky and adding one simple line of code screws with a whole slew of things. If that’s the reason, by all means, I’m not asking you to slave through that just to give me serif fonts… but I would like a reply of some sort, if/when you’re not too busy.

    Oh, and in advance: if you do reinstate the serif fonts, thank you so much!

    Regardless of the reply to this or action taken–or lack thereof–thanks for your time!

    -Lynx

     
    • KageNoNeko

      08/29/2012 at 2:53 pm

      Lynx Klaw, I looked to see if there was a different between the upper case “I” and the lower case “l” in a sans-serif font. It is very slight and can be notice if the two are together like this: Ill. However, it looks like the font that is being used on this blog does not have the same difference as another sans-serif font. However, I think the sans-serif font that needs to be used is one where the capital I has a thicker stroke than the lowercase l. That is how the website of my alma mater has the difference between the capital I and the lowercase l.

      From my webdesign class that I took in college, it was impressed on me that serif fonts should be only used for headlines, headings, and titles, not in paragraph text.

       
      • Lynx Klaw

        08/29/2012 at 3:55 pm

        I can agree with most of that–I have no problem with sans-serif fonts… if they have a noticeable difference between them. I can see on this blog’s font that slight curvature at the bottom of the “l.” That’s fine for me. It provides a distinction.

        I recently took a look over Verdana again and I apparently have that one wrong. Verdana makes clear distinction in the uppercase “i” (gives it serifs, actually)… but Arial, I think, is the worst offender for making me look at a word closely (such words like ‘Illegitimate’). It’s not so much that I don’t know what I’m reading, but that checking the spelling of multiple vertical lines placed so close together can sometimes throw the eye off.

        I tend to both read and proofread fics; it’s habit.

        I was speaking more from a novel/printed word point of view than webdesign (I’ll agree with you on the webdesign font usage). Most of the books I read use a serif font on their printed pages; when reading–even reading online–some story, I like that familiarity. I do realize that reading things online can’t, won’t, and honestly shouldn’t be the same as it is in books. It just seems that–if you’re writing a story, like one would write a fiction novel, novella, or short story–one should use the same visual medium.

        Then again, I could be coming off as a strict stickler–which I hope isn’t the case.

        It could be the mere fact of my resolution that prevents me from seeing the thickness mentioned of the uppercase “i,” but I haven’t noticed. I set my resolution at 1440*900. For now, however, I believe I will just stick with Verdana; at least I can more easily differentiate things with it than I can with Arial.

        Anyway, this ramble on fonts has gone long. Thanks for pointing some of those things out–I’ll pay more attention to see if I’m just missing something on other sans-serif fonts.

        -Lynx

         
  5. Tyner Twine

    08/27/2012 at 11:45 am

    it would seem that mozilla and google chrome are experiencing the same problems. I couldn’t navigate my account properly

     
    • Shooting Sword

      08/28/2012 at 9:41 am

      Look on the next page. The new ‘upgrades’ may be the cause.

       
  6. The Imaginatrix

    08/27/2012 at 3:54 pm

    YAY! YOU GUYS FIXED IT! (Wild happy dance.)

    Thank you Zing. I very much appreciate being able to click on external links again.

     
  7. Guest

    08/27/2012 at 5:00 pm

    @The Imaginatrix

    Amen to that. I completely agree with you. If someone is going to sit there for hours on end searching for stories to report…they seriously need a life. I admit there are a bunch of stories on FFN that shouldn’t be there, but I’m beginning to see a lot of this reporting crap as a person’s way to kiss FFN’s butt and become popular. I’ve been on FFN for five years, and posting stories for over a year now, but all of this crap with CU and whatnot is really getting old.

    Personally, I think groups like that should be dedicated to helping authors write better, using constructive criticism, not bullying authors or threatening them to take their stories down. If an author comes across a story that is breaking the rules, then yes, by all means report it. Just don’t make it your career…because that’s just sad.

    Maybe a strike system could work. If someone reports a story then the author could get a strike/warning to either take it down or fix it up so it doesn’t violate the rules. They could be given a three-day period (in case the person is busy and doesn’t always get to check their messages) to do what is asked of them. If they still don’t, then they could receive another warning and a threat of suspension/deletion. Again, another three-day period. Third strike, then the story could be taken down and deleted and other then automatic deletion of the account.

    However, I understand that would take a lot time to monitor all stories that come in. And as I’ve noticed in previous threads, FFN does not have the time or money to put into something like that. So the best bet is to continue on reading and writing and only report a story that violates the rules when you come across it…instead of searching for them.

     
  8. izraill

    08/27/2012 at 5:56 pm

    Well, Actually I don’t use IE. (And no one should use it if they can use another browser) but is good you care for all your users. :)

     
  9. yemi hikari

    08/27/2012 at 8:40 pm

    I have a question for the site admins. There are a bunch of older crossovers that are not correctly categorized because the memebers are no longer active on the site. Would it be possible for us to send reports for these fanfics in and know that they won’t be deleted? I’m actually leary about reporting them via the normal means simply because I don’t want them removed and they just need to be recategorized.

     
    • The Imaginatrix

      08/27/2012 at 9:06 pm

      I second this suggestion.

       
      • izraill

        08/27/2012 at 9:09 pm

        I third it.

         
      • konarciq

        08/28/2012 at 1:59 pm

        I fourth it.

         
    • Guest

      08/27/2012 at 9:09 pm

      Please don’t report them. There are some goodies buried in the miscellaneous TV crossovers and I fear they might get deleted, if only by accident.

      It would be great if those stories could be properly categorized, but I imagine that to be a nightmarish task. Not every author stated in the summary which shows they were writing for. Having to determine which fandoms the story covered would be a pain in the rear, especially if the people tasked with the job aren’t familiar with all of them.

       
      • konarciq

        08/28/2012 at 2:07 pm

        As I understand Yemi’s request, we’re not supposed to report them as being wrong, rulebreaking and needing to removed. But alert admin when we come across them, including the info in which crossover categories they *should* go, so that admin can put them in the crossover section where they belong.

        Of course they don’t need to be deleted. At the time when they were published, I guess, they didn’t violate any rules! It’s just an update for the reader’s sake.

         
      • yemi hikari

        08/28/2012 at 6:13 pm

        @ Guest – It isn’t that hard to tell that a Lord of the Rings/Harry Potter crossover written in 2003 is a Lord of the Rings/Harry Potter crossover. I’ve looked through the crossover categories and a lot of the fanfics I read a long time ago are missing. Nobody looks for them either and they go untouched.

        @ konarciq – That’s why I want a verification that the site admins will simply move the fanfics and not delete them if someone sends in a report. I’d like to be able to send in a list of crossovers that need to be moved and I am sure I’m not the only person. And actually, some of them did break site rules as they weren’t filed under the crossover category but one of the two fandoms. Goodness knows some of these writers would have jumped on the dual categorizing we havenow though.

         
      • Guest

        08/28/2012 at 8:31 pm

        @konarciq: I didn’t mean to infer yemi hikari or anyone else was reporting these older crossovers with the intention of getting them deleted. My concern is that all reports apparently go to the same place. We’re all human, mistakes happen and I’d hate to see a good story get accidently deleted. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression.

        @yemi hikari: I’ve always considered the miscellaneous crossovers to be a wasteland. Yet buried in the rubbish are a few gems. :) I’ve love if they were cleaned up!

        While many of the stories make their respective categories obvious, there are several I can’t make heads or tails of. They don’t even mention a character’s full name which might make it click for me.

        Regarding rule breaking, many of the stories I like predate the crossover section. If a story is 80 percent Fandom A and 20 percent Fandom B, I don’t mind that the author posted under Fandom A. I believe the author chose that path not to get lost in the wasteland. Yes, they broke the rules, but in the grand scheme of things, I’m willing to cut them some slack under the circumstances. :)

         
      • yemi hikari

        08/30/2012 at 1:54 am

        @ Guest – The fact my crossovers got more reviews once I moved them to the new crossover categories goes to show how much of a wasteland the categories are for the older fanfics.

         
  10. Nessa

    08/27/2012 at 11:55 pm

    I hope I’m not bothering anyone with this. I’ve been frustrated with the links not changing color whenever I click on a link. Not the actual story link, links like to a person’s profile or the link that leads to the very last chapter of a fic. Especially that last one, since I use it as a way to know if I’ve read a story or not. If the color is different, I know I’ve read it. And lately, sometimes I click on a fic only to discover I’ve read it earlier.

    Can all visited link colors please be changed back? I guess this isn’t a big issue, but it’s very frustrating for me since that’s how I’ve used the site up til the link color got changed and now, keeping track of read fanfics has become more frustrating.

    Thank you!

     
    • Shooting Sword

      08/28/2012 at 9:37 am

      I would like all the links to change colour too.

       
      • konarciq

        08/28/2012 at 2:00 pm

        Me too!

         
    • ShikiKira

      08/29/2012 at 5:38 pm

      Same!

       

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