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Looking forward to April

28 Mar

The email problem we encountered a couple of days ago really took a toll on our feature push schedule. An external factor due to a 3rd party mistake was the root cause of all the mail delivery problem. The 3rd party was able to resolve this matter on their end but it nevertheless wasted two full days of our time. No one is perfect and we are just glad the problem is behind us so we can move forward.

April Schedule:

  • First week of  April: Complete the 4 character support for all part of the site. Currently the category listing page and story line-items are not showing all four.
  • Mid to Late April: At least one large feature push. If everything goes smoothly, April will overshadow March by a significant margin.

Fixed

  • Random chapter text not found error. 
  • Dark theme making drop-down menus invisible.

Triage:

  • We are investigating some minor issues with IE8 browser not saving font changes. Regardless of the eventual fix, we highly recommend all Vista/Windows7 users to upgrade to IE9 immediately.  XP users should use Chrome/Firefox as a temporary workaround. 

Notes:

  • Many fonts in the fontastic panel will not be available for Windows XP users. XP cannot correctly render many of the newer fonts without changing system configuration and we have decided to drop the support of these fonts for XP users. XP users can only select system type fonts such as Verdana, Arial, and a few others.
  • IE6/7 Support. We will no longer officially support users on IE6/7 browsers. Please upgrade to IE8/9. IE6/7 is way too old and we will not test any future features on them. The site will still function on pre IE8/9 but just not officially supported.
 
112 Comments

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112 responses to “Looking forward to April

  1. favonilla

    03/28/2013 at 6:28 pm

    Hi, Xing, and thanks again for all the hard work, and for keeping us up to date.

    One small niggle – will we be given back the ability to sort our stats pages by number of hits, reviews, word count etc?

     
    • darksun

      03/28/2013 at 7:04 pm

      Fully agree with this, very disappointed that this feature has been taken away and I am eagerly awaiting its return

       
      • classictrekker

        03/29/2013 at 8:26 am

        darksun,

        They FIXED IT!! (No, this is NOT an early April Fools’ joke!! Just looked at stats this morning, and the ability to sort by views, etc., is BACK!! :)

         
      • merlinrecon

        03/29/2013 at 9:18 am

        Yeah, I want this too. Its not very easy the way it is. That was one of the only sort features I ever used (the other, on peoples faves or stories), and you took it away.

         
      • merlinrecon

        03/29/2013 at 9:19 am

        Lol, I should have read you message Classictrekker. It is back, cool.

         
    • RES

      03/28/2013 at 8:04 pm

      Same. I need to know my stats!

       
      • classictrekker

        03/29/2013 at 8:27 am

        RES,

        see my comment to darksun–it’s back!! :D

         
    • darkwolf174

      03/29/2013 at 8:47 am

      What about letting people remove stuff from their own private message outbox? My own is so full of clutter I can barely navigate through.

      Also there should be a right for a user to remove his/her own signed reviews.

       
      • bienfait

        03/29/2013 at 3:17 pm

        With reviews, are you talking about reviews received, or reviews sent? Because if it’s reviews received, absolutely not. This question has been comprehensively discussed before. Giving an author the ability to remove reviews at will would degrade the value of review process to the point where it is completely pointless.

        And if you mean reviews sent, then wouldn’t it be better for the reviewer to check before they post them? Once you’ve posted, you should be prepared to stand by your opinion.

         
      • yemi hikari

        03/29/2013 at 5:57 pm

        @ darkwolf174 ~ They tried a feature where people could remove stuff from their outbox but it ended up being buggy. They may or may not try again.

        @ bienfait ~ I agree with you about not letting people remove reviews they’ve left on another persons story, but I don’t have a problem with a twenty-four hour editing period unless the author has already replied to the review so that we can edit some of the typos and stuff. I say not allowing after the author’s replied because a person can lie and say, “but I didn’t say that”.

         
      • bienfait

        03/29/2013 at 6:12 pm

        I accept your amendments, yemi hikari; they make sense.

         
  2. Jaime Mauricio Yañez Rojas

    03/28/2013 at 6:34 pm

    I think it’s great what’s coming in April

     
  3. Raichu

    03/28/2013 at 7:05 pm

    Sorry to hear that your time got wasted like that. I know how frustrating it gets (I’m a software engineer too).

    BTW I noticed something odd. When I go to Browse > Stories > (any category), I get a list of fandoms, but the line at the top says “Sort by popularity”. It doesn’t give any other options of how to sort, e.g., alphabetically. Is that meant to be like that? It seems redundant. I would prefer if you also offered an alphabetic option, but until you do, it seems pointless to have that line there.

     
    • yemi hikari

      03/29/2013 at 5:59 pm

      It would also be nice to sort out fandom type as well, like book, Anime, ect.

       
  4. MMC

    03/28/2013 at 7:09 pm

    Thanks for the hard work, Xing and staff! Can’t wait to see the four character support. This’ll probably be a nice surprise when I’m active again once I finish school. :)

    Just a question/suggestion: would it be possible to add the word/character limit to the review box again? I just finished writing a review that was EXTREMELY long and, since the box wasn’t cutting me off, I assumed my entire review would have been published. Unfortunately, it cut off the last two paragraphs and I had to PM the author with the rest of my review. Having that character limit was really helpful before and it would be great to see that make a comeback. At least some form of telling a reviewer that they can’t write past a certain limit.

     
    • One of Three

      03/29/2013 at 2:29 am

      MMC, your suggestion seems to have been buried by the discussion below. I think it’s a good idea. I love getting long reviews, but I can guess how frustrating it must be when the last part gets cut off because the reviewer had no warning they’d gone over limit.

      A simple character limit indicator would be very helpful

       
      • MMC

        03/29/2013 at 9:40 am

        Yes I saw it. I’ve seen people bring up the pictures thing, but not to the point that it became a discussion like that. Lol

         
    • yemi hikari

      03/29/2013 at 6:01 pm

      Yes please. I haven’t had very many reviews that have been long, but there have been one or two.

       
  5. holmes4ever

    03/28/2013 at 7:22 pm

    That sounds good for April. Keep up the good work.

     
    • One of Three

      03/29/2013 at 2:30 am

      holmes4ever, I take back what I said before. You’ve just demonstrated your positive side, and I like it.

       
      • yemi hikari

        03/29/2013 at 6:01 pm

        I too am pleased with the change they’re showing.

         
  6. Britt

    03/28/2013 at 7:55 pm

    Well I wasn’t sure I was going to like some of these changes I have to say I do like the fact that you can find the search button from anywhere now. very helpful Thank you

     
    • holmes4ever

      03/29/2013 at 7:25 pm

      I don’t like any of the changes, really. This site is like a dicatorship with the way they do things. They tell you what to post, what not to post, how to post, and when it comes to changes, they just do them and don’t ask us.

       
      • A.J. Goode

        04/30/2013 at 5:47 pm

        Um . . . They OWN it. We don’t. Why should they ask our permission before making any changes?

        If you don’t like the way a privately-owned site is operated by the people who own it, perhaps you need to create your own sie.

         
  7. metsfan101

    03/28/2013 at 8:22 pm

    more picture features please. i love this site but it needs to allow us to post more pictures

     
    • bienfait

      03/28/2013 at 9:19 pm

      No, it does not need more pictures. The focus of the site is, and must remain, on the written word. There are plenty of other sites for you to post your pictures, without hijacking a site whose core purpose is something else.

      Frankly, any writer who can’t paint a picture with words is probably not a very competent writer.

       
      • cmcwiki

        03/28/2013 at 9:37 pm

        I don’t know, I wouldn’t mind there being chapter covers. If a picture is worth a thousand words, shouldn’t we get to see more pictures if given the opportunity?

         
      • bienfait

        03/28/2013 at 9:48 pm

        “A picture is worth a thousand words” – like most so-called truisms, is completely inaccurate. I suggest you read P G Wodehouse to find out how a detailed picture can be painted with ten well-chosen words.

        Pictures are all very well in their place, but overuse of them encourages lazy writing. And there’s enough lazy writing on ffnet as it is (Fictionpress not so much).

        The best writing forums I have seen have no images apart from avatars, and the overall standard doesn’t suffer at all.

        I repeat, these are writing sites, not picture sites. Please don’t start blurring that distinction.

         
      • cmcwiki

        03/28/2013 at 9:52 pm

        I mean within reason. Like if an event important to the storyline occured, like a transformation or the before and afters to a great battle or other significant event. I’m just saying that more pictures should be encouraged, though i agree they should be used sparingly

         
      • bienfait

        03/28/2013 at 10:04 pm

        An event which is important to the storyline can and *should* be depicted within the story. A picture is essentially static – it doesn’t move, and therefore can’t be said to advance the narrative (except in cases of comic strip/manga, which is a whole different medium). A well-written passage of prose, however, moves; it will carry the writer from one point in the story to the next as a single picture never can.

        If a new chapter needs a visual crutch to clarify what’s going on, chances are the writing’s below par. Paper novels, and even e-novels, have never depended on pictures to propel the storyline, so I don’t understand why these sites should be any different.

        And on a purely practical level, all those pictures have to be stored somewhere, and take up bandwidth to display, which slows the site’s response. I think the existing provision of story covers is more than adequate.

         
      • cmcwiki

        03/28/2013 at 10:08 pm

        I think we are seeing to entirely different things. I’m thinking of a post-chapter picture. I think that you are thinking of people spamming it between the text.

         
      • bienfait

        03/28/2013 at 10:12 pm

        I see what you are saying, but a post-chapter picture still seems redundant to me. Why do you think your readers need it? Because you don’t think you can make it clear with words? Or because you think they haven’t sufficient imagination to make their own mental picture?

        I guess this is a point where we might have to agree to hold differing opinions.

         
      • cmcwiki

        03/28/2013 at 10:27 pm

        Nothing like that. Its easy to imagine and describe such scenes. The difficulty is with ocs. Most writers only describe ocs once. afterwards, unless something stood out in the description, Oc’s just become a featureless face, and it sucks when that happens to oc’s that become main characters. Details from the original author of the series the story is based in do not need illustration as people should be aware of canon. If you’ve read/seen/played the original material you are able to get a mental picture even with the most half-assed description attempt you’ve ever seen. With fan created content it is a whole other ballgame

         
      • bienfait

        03/28/2013 at 10:33 pm

        So let me understand – whenever you read a normal everyday novel – e-book or paper – do you need pictures of all the important characters, so you don’t forget what they look like? No? So why is it different with fanfiction?

         
      • cmcwiki

        03/28/2013 at 10:36 pm

        because when characters original appearance doesn’t change much, the publishing author is still kind enough to remind you what they look like every once in a while. i am speaking from a readers pov btw

         
      • bienfait

        03/28/2013 at 10:50 pm

        Sorry, maybe it’s just me, but I don’t quite understand your last comment. Which authors give you reminders – published professionals, or fanfic writers? Because I’ve read plenty that do and plenty that don’t, both professional and fanfic. It doesn’t particularly impinge on my enjoyment, except when the author goes on about it, which in fanfic probably means it’s a Sue. I don’t think we need to encourage writers to post a photograph of themselves as an illustration of their OC, do you?

        I’m also confused because you’ve shifted your argument. Firstly you said a picture was needed for “an event important to the storyline”; then suddenly youchanged tack and said “the difficulty is with OCs.” I personally don’t believe there’s a problem with either.

         
      • cmcwiki

        03/28/2013 at 11:00 pm

        No of course not, never for sues and stus. i make sure to stay away from those. Its just that some QUALITY ocs tend to be forgettable and some may need assistance to jolt their memories w/o having to track down their debut chapter.(especially troublesome in stories of an epic length)

        You’ve probably found some really good authors.

         
      • bienfait

        03/28/2013 at 11:19 pm

        I have, and none of them needed pictures :D

         
      • Jan

        03/28/2013 at 11:58 pm

        I’ve been reading your comments with interest

        The impression that I’m getting from cmcwiki is that there are some writers who don’t have the skills or the patience to write a really good story with good descriptions about OC in order to make them stand out for their readers without the need for reminders or to go back to the first chapter.

        I personally think that this falls back to the writer and how they write, which means that they may need to improve their skills and not just take the easy option of adding a picture.

        I think that using a picture would just make it worse as a writer would never have to worry about improving their skills or perhaps they believe that they don’t need to improve or learn. (I’m not putting all fanfic writers into this pot but you know what I mean)

         
      • yemi hikari

        03/30/2013 at 12:30 am

        I honestly have the same opinion that the others have. If a writer needs a picture to tell their story then they honestly need to work on their writing rather then using pictures as a crutch to tell their stories.

         
      • Halatia

        04/01/2013 at 1:30 am

        I agree to a point, but this is a site for fun, not for only professionals. If an author wants the opportunity to post pictures to go with their story, I agree that there are other sites tailored to that. But people were commenting on the quality of the stories in reply to your post as well, and that’s just not right. This isn’t a professional publishing site. The writers here shouldn’t be criticized for their lack of talent for prose just because one person is looking for professional quality writing. Heck, a lot of the writers on here are teenagers, who are writing plots to see a story go the way they think it should have. Be nice. If they still need pictures to explain their story, that’s not something that should be criticized. Yes, there are better sites to do it on; but there shouldn’t be discussion about not needing it if you have talent. That’s not what this site is about. It’s about fun.

         
      • favonilla

        04/01/2013 at 2:51 am

        @Halatia – I don’t think anyone meant to be particularly hard on the not-quite-so-talented writers. The fact is, a lot of writers need to learn their craft (heck, my teenage writing was monumentally bad!). And not just young writers, but older ones, too.

        I think the point some users are trying to make is, propping up bad writing with pictures doesn’t work, the writing remains bad, and for at least some of them the extra pressure to provide illustrations may mean that the pictures are bad, too. And good writing doesn’t need it. If a story needs illustrations that badly, it’s a story I don’t want to read, no matter how much it might hurt the writer’s feelings.

        By all means, writing stories should be fun. But that is the point of these sites – writing stories. I don’t go into Starbucks to buy shoes; I don’t go to the theatre to get a meal; and I don’t come to fictionpress and ffnet to look at pictures.

         
      • yemi hikari

        04/30/2013 at 6:07 pm

        @ Halatia – I find myself bothered by your post. While it is true that this site isn’t just for professional writers, it isn’t just for fun and games either. On top of this the only thing that sets a professional apart from an amateur is that one makes a living off of it while the other does not. Both are open to critisism, though when it does come to young writers the criticism needs to be more of the instructional kind then anything.

        You also do realize that the writers on both sites should at least have a seventh grade writing and reading level as they need to be thirteen to be on this site unless said writer has a learning disability or got held back for some reason. Someone with a seventh grade writing level or higher doesn’t need pictures to explain their stories. It’s the lowest denominator that needs these pictures to explain their writing.

        There are other writers though who don’t want to put any time or effort in to grow as a writer whose sole purpose is to get as many positive reviews as possible. They too would use pictures as a crutch to tell their stories and focus more on finding pictures then writing a chapter to the best of their ability. That is the other group of people who would feel the need to use pictures in their stories and honestly, that’s not something I want to support.

         
    • ShikiKira

      03/28/2013 at 9:35 pm

      I agree with bienfait. Learn to write better instead of focusing your attention on pictures. A writer shouldn’t need pictures to tell a story.

       
      • Blade

        03/28/2013 at 10:59 pm

        Yes! Please, please, please, don’t turn this into a picture site! About 99% of the photos uploaded are in violation anyways. The last time I uploaded a story cover, I had to confirm that it wasn’t a copyrighted image. Are people expecting to upload fanart, or images they stole from magazines? Either way, I want ffnet to stay focus on its fanfiction! Please.

         
      • merlinrecon

        03/29/2013 at 1:07 pm

        Most pic/avatars used online whether this site or any other are in public domain, which doesn’t technically belong to you, (or in most cases the site you found the pic/avatar), but no one’s going to complain.

         
      • Sasha

        03/28/2013 at 11:33 pm

        So basically what CMCWIKI is saying, they want pictures to be embedded within a story itself, to act as “reminders” to readers as to what OC’s look like? Am I missing a cog or something somewhere in my admittedly slow brain? As bienfait and ShikiKira stated, the site does not need pictures outside of the story covers because bandwidth and other server issues aside, can you imagine what a horrorfest of mishmash pictures the site would be? Unless someone is REALLY good at either drawing or Photoshop, it’s hard to create a solidly decent picture from canon source…heck, look at some of the existing covers, they’re messy and often a hodge-podge of misaligned images, so can you imagine what a distraction it would be if that were allowed in the actual story itself?

        And what’s the point of reminding readers of what an OC looks like, does anyone really care? A good writer will describe their OC in a memorable fashion so you DON’T forget what they look like. If you forget from chapter to chapter what someone’s OC looks like, they’re definitely NOT a quality-created OC. Same with “important scenes”…a good writer will paint such a vivid picture with words alone that you don’t NEED physical images to make you imagine the scene. Plus, isn’t that a bit lazy and entitled of a reader to expect a writer to not only entertain them with words, but also with actual images? What’s wrong with using your own imagination to create the described scene in your mind? Most novels and short stories do not rely on physical images to set the scenes, unless they’re in a children’s book. And unless this site is suddenly catering to children, I see no need for images outside of the covers to be allowed on this site.

         
      • yemi hikari

        03/30/2013 at 1:13 am

        @ merlinrecon – Where did you get the idea that most of the pictures people have been using on this site or any other is in public domain? The definition of public domain is any work that the copyright has lapsed, not any work that can easily be accessed on the net. I’ve seen a lot of people using pictures that were obviously snagged from the original copyrighted material. I’ve also seen people using other people’s fan art without permission. Despite the fact the creator of the fan work can’t sell their fan work, their work is still protected from being used by another person without their permission.

        While it is true that no one is currently complaining about people using images they don’t have permission for, one of the reasons comes from the fact people have no way of reporting the images except by e-mailing the site admins. Also, the site admins have not made it clear if people can edit the clips to make a new image and if so it hasn’t been clarified how much the image needs to be changed. I know quite a few people who create their own fanart though who will throw a fit if they find someone using their fanart without permission on any site and not hesitate to report them, myself included.

        @ Sasha – I’ve found that when people want to show what their character looks like it is because they want the reader to know how pretty their character they created is and/or how much they look like a certain star. The sometimes exception to the rule is when someone has drawn the character or commissioned it themselves. I say sometimes because most of the writers who also do fanart would rather draw the characters then their OCs.

         
    • yemi hikari

      03/30/2013 at 12:27 am

      I believe a lot of us have said no the previous times you’ve posted the question.

       
  8. cmcwiki

    03/28/2013 at 9:35 pm

    REPOSTING THIS BECAUSE OF A LACK OF RESPONSE AT FONTASTIC UPDATES, POSTING IT HERE SEEMS MORE APPROPRIATE ANYWAY.
    NEW IDEA! Along with the 4 character filters, there should be a “And/Or” filter. IE, If i were to select Character A, Character D, Character H, and Character P, and select “Or” I would get the archive with all the stories that have any of those characters in the filters.

    Your thoughts on this? i am especially looking for feedback from you Xing. and thanks to Yemi Hekari for responding to my original post

     
    • Guest

      03/28/2013 at 10:59 pm

      You can get that already by searching one character at a time. If you want stories that have character x or/and y. Search just for x, read what you like than search y.

       
      • cmcwiki

        03/29/2013 at 12:48 pm

        doing it my way is more convenient.

         
    • cmcwiki

      03/28/2013 at 11:15 pm

      PLEASE RESPOND! ANYBODY

       
    • merlinrecon

      03/29/2013 at 9:14 am

      If you just put character A. & B. it would do that anyway, (it does now if you just put one character, unless its changed since as I’ve only been picking through Communities for the past few months lol). I think its going to be harder to get what you want with 4 characters because a lot of authors will put 4 even though it only stars 2, which will be annoying because there are characters we ALL want to avoid as main character, so we might not read what we normally would have.

       
      • cmcwiki

        03/29/2013 at 10:35 am

        eh i have a bit of a system, Every week @ saturday @2 am central time i go to the fandom i follow (Naruto) and open tabs for the archives with all the stories that have been posted or updated within a seven day period. I open the ones that interest me in tabs and bookmark them and read them eventually. If i don’t like the story, or the summary of it doesn’t catch me, i don’t read it. I am a picky reader. Thus i don’t normally pick stories with summaries like:

        Boyxboy (i’m not a homophobe just not my cup of tea)
        Summary inside (if you can’t take the time to tell me what the story is about, why should i take the time to read it)
        Mpreg (no… just… no)
        Massive harem (so basically nothing ever gets done, you won’t post no more than ten chapters and character development is gonna be shallow and fake, every girl is going to sound like the other one in the group and always agree with the male lead and say “sure honey, get your swagger on with as many girls as you like, i always wanted a big family. its not like i have to worry about my dignity or self respect.” and lemons will be every other chapter, much as i like lemons, i like my stories to be a little more realistic and very few harem stories ever get off the ground AND are good)
        drabblefic (no, absolutely not, that is like halfassing a story. you might as well just write a blog about what you liked in canon and what you thought was going through the characters heads)
        (i think you get the general picture)

        How do you know what the authors are going to do? just because it says that you can put four characters in doesn’t mean they will.

         
      • seila

        03/29/2013 at 10:05 pm

        Heh, people who have misused the character filter before will probably continue to do so, and people who tagged it proper before will similarly continue. Only difference is that there’s more to choose from.

        I still see stories with only one main character pop up. The only trouble is that you’re out of luck if you’re looking for fics that exclusively star one person.

         
  9. JM

    03/28/2013 at 10:35 pm

    Thanks for all of the great work, guys! Glad things have worked out on the third-party end, too.

    I’ve been thinking of this for a while, and I feel like it wouldn’t bee too major a change, but maybe you could try it. I’ve always wanted a “Hiatus” option along with “In-Progress” and “Complete” for story status. That way we don’t have to use up summary space or post an all-A/N chapter to inform the readers that don’t check our profiles.

    Thanks again! Can’t wait to see what happens this next month!

     
    • yemi hikari

      03/30/2013 at 1:15 am

      I would appreciate this as well as an abandoned option.

       
    • Filly8

      03/31/2013 at 2:19 pm

      I would appriciate this as well! At least the addition of the hiatus if not the abandoned one as well. It also might bring more awareness that the status options are there. I can’t tell you how many times i find competed stories stil listed as in-progress; this is annoying to me because i only generally read completed works.. which i can’t find/search for if you mislabeled them!

       
      • IwysAshes

        03/31/2013 at 2:28 pm

        I would really love an proper app for ff.net, for the obvious reasons like being logged in and commenting, writing, editing stuff….but I also find it weird that there isnt one already. Like you said, it’s the smartphone age, app age, and there isnt one. there is one for fictionpress i just tried out, thinking perhaps this is the one since they are belonging to it apparently, but that are only fiction stories and there isnt a login possibility either. Dont know, it is weird. And the third party fanfiction.net apps dont allow to log in. you can download, save in your own library and everything, but you still cant write, comment, or do anything really that needs you to be logged in.

         
      • yemi hikari

        04/30/2013 at 5:15 pm

        Not everything needs an ap though. I wonder if having an ap would only encourage more bad writing as it would be used by people on the go and who are in a hurry in the first place. Writing… good writing, it takes time and if you do use that device for your computer work as well I guess I can see the use, but would most people use it for that reason? I see it as a way to encourage some of these younger members who are posting poor work just to post more poor work.

         
      • Iwysashes

        04/30/2013 at 5:43 pm

        Well, I think this is very over the top. I think that having an app would make people make read more stories and review right through it, it’d only be more comfortable and I don’t see why it shouldn’t be. Also, I know loads of authors who write great stories, they do it on the phone and in the end have to upload it to the computer to get it up on the side. With all the childish/perverted stories out there, written by young and old alike, it wouldn’t make much difference. Just don’t read it, that’s the best option. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Also, this is a site for everyone to write, and no matter how mad some writing makes me, I still remember that those people have probably pondered for a long time if they should upload.

        Sure an app won’t be for everyone but why shouldn’t there be one for the ones that’d like it? There needs to be a vote so the developers perhaps realise there is an interest in having an app.

         
    • missy

      04/02/2013 at 10:24 am

      Of course, you’re breaking site rules when you post an all A/N chapter anyway. But it’s not like they enforce rules.

       
      • merlinrecon

        04/02/2013 at 10:38 am

        Fiction-press should be left and fuse it with FF.net. I have rarely gone looking for OF on FP.com, but if it was on FF.net (or whatever it would be called – they could keep both domain names but reroute one) I would be more than likely inclined to read OF’s.

         
  10. Em

    03/29/2013 at 12:34 am

    Don’t know if this has been discussed before, but I recently opted to have four characters listed for one of my stories. Except, once I’d chosen all four, they somehow got sorted into Alphabetical order, thereby removing my story from the section it should be. Can we have an order sensitive four character set for authors to use. Doesn’t necessarily matter for searches really, but it does matter if the story is about two characters, with two others featuring, but not super important.

     
    • fems

      03/29/2013 at 1:43 pm

      While I agree the characters shouldn’t be automatically alphabetized, I don’t think you should list four characters if two of them aren’t as important as the other two. If they don’t equally share the limelight then you shouldn’t include them, simple as that. This character listing isn’t the same as, for example, the one on archiveofourown where you can also list relationships/pairings and add other tags.

      Here on FFnet the characters you mention should be the main characters in your story, it’s unnecessary to mention as much characters as you possibly can (especially if this feature gets more than four slots in the future) and that will only mislead the readers.

       
      • cmcwiki

        03/29/2013 at 1:58 pm

        yeah a lot of people get that misconception. the character filters are not for pairings. They are meant to say who the core characters of the story are.

         
      • Em

        03/29/2013 at 7:06 pm

        Surely if a story is about Character A & Character B but Character C & D have a large presence in most of the story but are not the main characters you would use this feature for all of them?
        Not that I’m really bothered, no offence, cos ultimately I’ll do what I think is best for my story.
        HOWEVER.
        Alphabetical order is rubbish. Needs to be changed so the you can order them.

         
      • yemi hikari

        03/30/2013 at 1:28 am

        I actually don’t agree with the idea that the writer should be able to sort the characters in any order they want, it should be alphabetized. If people were able to order the characters any way they wanted, we’d be in the same boat were were before where people are using the character tags to indicate the pairings in a story. On top of this the readers should be able to tell which of the four is more important by reading the story, they honestly don’t need the writer to tell them which is more important, unless of course two of the main characters show up in the second half perhaps.

         
  11. TheAnnoyingVoice

    03/29/2013 at 1:40 am

    After reading all of these picture-related comments, I would like to add my opinion as well. I agree with a lot about what everyone else has said about FFN does not needing pictures. If you’re having trouble describing an OC, or anything for matter, I suggest reading books in order to pick up more words for a better vocabulary, which will in turn help out with the imagery when writing a story. If you really want someone to get a good idea of what your OC looks like, then draw a picture, submit it on deviantArt, and provide a link to it in your profile.

     
  12. metsfan101

    03/29/2013 at 1:59 am

    wow i never would have though my post would stir a debate, i wasnt saying to add a lot of pictures, but perhaps we could have a cover picture at the top of every chapter

     
    • One of Three

      03/29/2013 at 2:08 am

      I don’t think so. Better to concentrate on making one really good one for the cover, which appears on every chapter anyway, than spread the effort among a dozen or more and have most of them turn out mediocre because they’ve been rushed. And like someone else said, real books don’t have a picture for every chapter unless they’re written for seven-year-olds.

       
    • Moretti

      03/29/2013 at 2:22 am

      Don’t worry. It’s not your fault. It’s very impressive that you can create such a stimulating conversation with just one post. :)

      Of course, I don’t understand why someone would need a picture for every chapter. It just seems like an unnecessary update to me. People write stories that are over a hundred chapters long, so that is a lot of pictures! I suppose there could be “front” cover and “back” cover images, but I think even two pictures per story is too much. Pictures don’t really have a place in fanfic. If people need more visual stimulation, then they can head on over to Deviant Art. Most people link to their artwork/profiles/tumblr anyways.

      I don’t want this site to lose its focus. Ffnet has always been about the stories and I’d like to keep it there. The recent updates have been amazing so far!

       
    • Jan

      03/29/2013 at 2:40 am

      You certainly did put the cat amongst the pigeons :)

      I’m curious as to why you would like to have pictures anyway.

       
    • fems

      03/29/2013 at 10:21 am

      No, we don’t need pictures at every chapter. This site is about writing, not about illustrated editions. Do you have any idea how long it takes for the average writer to create even one cover for their story? Not everyone is skilled with PS or other similar software and most writers prefer to put their energy in actually writing, to progress the story, rather than spend hours on a cover (which then gets uglified by the image manager after their hard labor).

      There are also people who simply don’t use a cover, let alone that they’re gonna bother making a pretty picture for their readers every single chapter.

      For those asking from a readers’ point of view; do you have any idea how long it takes for your favorite writers to complete a chapter, especially in novel-length stories? Depending on the fandom and the writer, chapters can vary from 1K-5K words or even more. On a good day I can write a chapter of 3-5K in less than a handful of hours but a lot of times there are other factors delaying the writing, or you have to spread it out over days because you simply don’t have the time. Also, for most people who take their writing seriously all of that is preceded by plotting out their stories, characters, events, timelines, etc. which can take hours to months, depending on the complexity and how much time they have on their hands. Then, once they have finished all that they can start to actually write…

      Of course, as a writer you want to update as soon as possible especially when you have reviews coming in telling you “to update ASAP” or “more, more please!” and to “don’t make me wait!”, so when you’ve finally wrapped up your chapter to your satisfaction you want to update the story. Not spend another couple of hours to make a ridiculous cover to accompany your chapter, because your readers lack the imagination and/or reading comprehension to interpret what you’ve spent hours on to write and picture it in their minds. Or they’re reading so many stories they can’t keep them apart in their head and forgot what your OC looks like and need a picture of them every time because a mention of their hair/eye color, height, and other physical attributes or skills every once in a while isn’t enough for them and they’re too lazy to go back a chapter to refresh their memory.

      Keep that in mind the next time you’re asking authors to go the extra mile atop of everything they already have to deal with, both fic-wise and in real life.

      I do have a request of my own; would it be possible for authors to choose whether to display their profile picture in lieu of a cover for their stories? I don’t scour people’s profiles and more often than I care to recall I’ve come across some very unattractive or disturbing pictures, which make me wonder why anyone would choose that particular image/photo as a profile image… Anyway, I don’t need to see them in the story overview and I doubt those people chose their images for that purpose, especially the ones that haven’t been resized for cover images. It would be nice if they could choose whether to use their profile pic or perhaps a blank image for the cover.

       
    • yemi hikari

      03/30/2013 at 1:30 am

      Every time you’ve brought it up you’ve gotten a big resounding no and you’re still getting a big no from me about having a cover picture for every single chapter. The cover art is enough.

       
  13. GunRecon 11

    03/29/2013 at 2:04 am

    Would like to point out that it is now impossible to post on Ffn. with a DROID Bionic, which is, frankly, stupid. This “update” isn’t helping me write stories. It isn’t getting me reviews. I don’t understand why you don’t have a posting process for the mobile version. :( Very disappointed. Fix it.

     
  14. Quincy

    03/29/2013 at 3:16 am

    I would really like to sort my stats again. Also, wouldn’t mind chapter cover images and more picture features.

     
    • classictrekker

      03/29/2013 at 1:13 pm

      Quincy,

      The sort ability is BACK. :)

       
  15. merlinrecon

    03/29/2013 at 9:07 am

    Internet Explorer is not a real browser anyway.

    But anyway, I wanted to say that something is wrong with the upload manager. When I upload and the box connecting the browsers to my computer pulls up and blah, blah, blah, then while scrolling, just the slightest nudge with the mouse wheel booms down a million miles per second passed what I want to upload, leaving me to use the side bar thing to the right of the screen to scroll. Its been like this for awhile (I use Chrome) and it doesn’t happen on any other sites or nothing. Its annoying because I love using my wheel and I always forget your thing doesn’t work well with the wheel and boom, every time, and I’m like AHHHHH!.

     
    • cmcwiki

      03/29/2013 at 10:37 am

      of course it isn’t, it doesn’t have a cool name like safari, firefox, or chrome or opera

       
  16. cutiegoku

    03/29/2013 at 12:02 pm

    That new feature update better have something to do with the Report Abuse system. That’s theone feature you should be concerned with. Not these unnecessary add ons. Please strengthen your report system, do you know how many illegal fics you are getting in the archives?

     
    • Fish Tank

      03/29/2013 at 1:31 pm

      They did update the Report Abuse system. If you’re complaining about the wait time, it’s because every story has to be justly investigated. If you’d like to speed things up, double check that the story actually does violate the rules. Too many stories are reported simply because the reader is confused or bias. That just clogs the system up.

      Anyways, I would think this site would want to encourage more members and stories. Not make people afraid to post, which is exactly what happens when you publicly pounce on people in groups. If you’re so concerned about reporting stories, then you’re obviously not interested in reading fanfic. Therefore, find another site to play on.

      And that’s not said in malice. Just as an observer. Your first priority should be the site running properly. You are too eager to report stories.

       
      • yemi hikari

        03/30/2013 at 1:38 am

        “If you’re so concerned about reporting stories, then you’re obviously not interested in reading fanfic.”

        This is not necessarily true. For example, I can’t go into the misc. section without coming across RPF and original fiction. I have one fandom I write for under misc. that is so unknown that I don’t want to request a fandom tag for it if I am the only one writing for it, and yet I’ve found myself wondering if I shouldn’t just submit a tag the situations gotten so bad so that I can feel free to write stories for the fandom again.

        Some of the fandoms a person goes into are flooded with rule breaking works and it is impossible to find a piece that isn’t breaking site rules. So in reality the problem may be that this person is very much interested in reading fanfic, but finds themselves unable to because so many people are breaking the rules in the particular fandom they wish to read.

         
      • missy

        04/02/2013 at 10:36 am

        When I go to the Misc Books section, I have to go through 3 or 4 PAGES of garbage that does NOT belong here, just to find one or two stories to read. So, no — I’m not reporting because I’m on the wrong site. I’m reporting because I’m on the right site, and the writers of RPF and original fiction are on the wrong site.

        I do NOT come to a fanfiction site to read stories about One Direction, or diary entries, or essays about little girls being bullied at school. I don’t come here to read original stories about some vampires wannabe, or sexual fantasies about a delusional teenybopper who believes she has personal permission to write about sleeping with Andy Biersack.

         
      • yemi hikari

        04/30/2013 at 5:09 pm

        @ Missy – I like how you put it. All we want is to be able to use the site in the way it was intended to be used.

         
  17. Greg

    03/29/2013 at 3:18 pm

    If there was an option to edit forum replies on mobile instead of having to revert back to the desktop version, that’d be great!

     
  18. fyd818

    03/29/2013 at 3:49 pm

    Just wanted to drop a quick line to say THANK YOU so much for putting the sort feature back on the legacy stats page. My only complaint is that the lines are spaced weirdly (I have a notebook, and most of the story stats I’m interested in, I sort so they’re close to the top via review or hit count), and I used to be able to see all of them on one page. But now I have to scroll down quite a bit to see everything, which is a bit time consuming. But still, thank you SO much for giving back our sort feature!

    Also, I agree with those people who are against more images for a story. I feel the comprehensive story cover is more than enough, and anything further would just degrade the writing – which is what this story is about, anyway.

    Thanks again for all the hard work you do to keep this site up for us! :)

     
  19. Mishelly

    03/29/2013 at 4:27 pm

    thx…i would love for everything to work with windows7 ie8 because my father wont let me use ie9 until it passes some quality test that makes sure that there r no bugs or anything in ie9…side note the community search options do not work for ie8

     
    • Token

      03/29/2013 at 4:34 pm

      QA tests from your dad on IE9 upgrade? At home? Is he serious? IE8 was released on March 19, 2009. IE9 was releaed on 2011-03-14. Your dad is taking 2 years to do QA tests btw. Talk to him.

       
  20. Mishelly

    03/29/2013 at 4:29 pm

    it when i search community, then on the right click one of those selection things that narrowed down the search

     
  21. Ladyangel-LadyDeath

    03/29/2013 at 4:51 pm

    I’m able to change the font size of the story but not the UI. It’s a bit disorienting to have the reading size different from the everything around it. Can there be an option for UI size as well? iPad 2 Safari

     
  22. Ashleigh

    03/29/2013 at 6:26 pm

    Thanks for everyone who fixed the email issue. I wasn’t aware how much I relied on emails to notify me of everything.

    Just one little thing… what happened to the strikethrough on the forums? That was a really handy feature to have on the forum I participate in and we all miss it!

     
  23. Shay

    03/29/2013 at 6:28 pm

    Yeeha, the sort function is back as Trekker said. Thanks a heap.

     
  24. IwysAshes

    03/30/2013 at 6:25 pm

    I’ve no idea if someone asked this before, but what about an ff.net app? I’m owning a android now, it’s smaller than my old iphone, and i have to say that it’s getting really frustrating to always log in, wait for the browser to buffer and all when it takes ages when I’m out. I’ve found three apps, which are not really originally yours, but they at least let me read things. the only thing i still do miss is the function to log in and review as a logged in member, to write. like wattpad. something like that would be amazing, with the same functions, perhaps better organized categories, but overall I’d love an app like that. So i’d be able to just write when I’ll suddenly get all inspirated, then i could edit it, save it and post it when I’m done. and i could review, i know as a story writer myself how horrible it is to see people were reading it but they never even commented on it, one thinks they didnt like it. I would love a ffnet app, i really would. I’d even pay for the pro version. right, i dont care about apple, but you obviously would, as long as android’d be involved too.

    hope you tell me if something like that is already planned or in the works or just a no go for whatever reasons.

    It’s the smartphone age, there should’ve been an app for that site a long time ago.

    thank you, for all your great work and giving us the platform to let out the creativity and make our favourite characters do what we’d like them to.

     
    • Filly8

      03/31/2013 at 2:16 pm

      While i don’t find it as big of a problem as you do (i just use safari/mobile version), I still find it odd that here isn’t a mobile app for the site that allows users more login power and editing power. I personally wouldn’t really use it but considering how big FF.net is and how this is the smartphone age…

       
  25. Kate Chase

    03/31/2013 at 1:28 pm

    @IwysAshes: I think that an app would be a neat idea. I know that with an Apple iPad, you can create a fanfiction icon on your home page that will take you directly to the site, but I’m not sure if it works with anything else.

     
    • IwysAshes

      03/31/2013 at 6:31 pm

      Hey :) thanks for the idea but it’s not really what i was looking for. I have an android, and with another launcher (the ss launcher) i can pretty much design everything the way i want from written words instead of app icons to own images as icons. it would still lead me to the browsers page and opera always deletes whatever i was reading if someone calls or i have to respond to a text, even though i havent shut it down but minimised, my other browsers are not good for it either and it’s a drag to comment on stories on the phone, I think. well for me personally. Have tried to upload a story once, never again. It didnt work out, of course it didnt.

      So an app would be really cool. One with all the features the website has. But thanks for the idea anyway. Oh right, if you have a browser on the phone with the option of an shortcut, you can also bookmark the ff.net page you always go to, like the rating the categories and then make a shortcut. it appears as an app icon on the phone display then, at least with android. don’t know about apple.

       
  26. IwysAshes

    03/31/2013 at 2:44 pm

    Another thing I realised just now. Perhaps it’s just me being stupid though. When I finished a chapter and upload it to the doc manager I often have to change a couple things, like bold, cursive, ect because they happen to look like I never formated them before. But the thing bugging me is, that when I try to break a paragraph, lets say with four times enter, and then put the ‘line’ between two paragraphs (present/past) it always gets back mashed together when I post it. There are no real spaces, well except for the normal ones, but I cant seem to put more empty lines underneath a paragraph. Tried the enter/shift i think it was, and everything. tried one to write something then go all the way to the end of the page and write another thing but after I saved it they were back to being directly under each other. Is there a way how I can put as many spaces between paragraphs as I want and I’m just too dense to see it or isnt it possible?

     
  27. annemari

    03/31/2013 at 2:54 pm

    Coming late to the conversation, but the one change I want more than anything else is a not option for genres. So I can search for stories which don’t have romance as a genre. As it is, I perform a character, word count, order search and I’m lucky if even two entries per page pass my first test: is it a romance? Yes –> next story, No –> check summary.

     
  28. missy

    04/02/2013 at 10:13 am

    Can we also assume that one of the changes will be the elimination of your rules against Original Fiction and Real Person Fiction on FFNet? Since you no longer respond to abuse reports and the authors of those works are taking your silence to mean they have your approval, it seems like a waste of time to ask us to agree to follow the guidelines.

    For the record, nearly one hundred works of original fiction and stories about One Direction, BVB and MCR have been added to your “Misc. Books” section in the past week alone. It’s pointless for authors to even TRY to post work that belongs in that category.

    While you’re at it, why not just eliminate the “Report Abuse” feature? You don’t act upon our reports any more, so what purpose does it serve?

    Why not also eliminate the need for FictionPress, since authors inundate FFNet with their original fiction and you do NOTHING about it?

    Bleh, I’m done.

     
    • yemi hikari

      04/24/2013 at 9:21 pm

      Some people need to learn to be patient, though with the lack of updates lately I am wondering how things are going on the admins side of things and whether they are working to update the site so that some outside source can’t hack it. But still… maybe one of the updates will make it easier to take care of the rule breaking stories? Who knows.

       
  29. Recortavidas

    04/03/2013 at 10:34 pm

    Honestly, I have divided opinion regarding some changes to the page. I appreciate the effort of the organizers to do a better job, but there are some details that bother me and, from what I read in the comments to other users.
    My suggestion is derived by the inclusion of the four characters, but not something I like, because I include the main partner in the description and the secondary in the story, to avoid confusion and problems, my comment is not motivated by scope romantic couples, but the division they should have.
    I think the characters should have a line or slash (/) that split from each other, not because readers would be confused, but to make it look neat to the description. It is good to improve the site, and give all of us, not just managers, but the writers, to work.
    Greetings and kisses.

     
  30. frostygossamer

    04/05/2013 at 9:01 pm

    Not sure I like the four character thing. Makes it harder to avoid a character you don’t want, as you can only filter in two and the other guy can sneak in as character 3 or 4. Could we have a new field for characters we DON’T want?

     
  31. Incarnate Firefly

    04/09/2013 at 1:12 am

    The bug where you’re on a story’s traffic graph and can’t scroll the bar horizontally is still present ever since the new layout was introduced. I’ve brought this up more than once already and it’s been ignored ever since. Please fix it soon.

     
  32. Dr Stranger

    04/11/2013 at 12:03 am

    It would be really nice if the character filters ran off of all four character fields, rather than just the first two. The way it is now one can easily miss a story they would want to read just because of the order that was used in listing the mains.

     
  33. Mr. Wonderful

    04/22/2013 at 7:10 pm

    While you’re doing updates, I was hoping I could make a request. I would like the authors to have more options. We can no longer disable anonymous reviews, so I think it would only be fitting for authors to have the ability to delete all reviews, including the signed ones.

    I’ve thought about all the pros and cons, and it seems that the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages.

    I would like to see updates that affect authors in a positive way. Instead of taking options away from the authors, such as the ability to disable anonymous reviews, you should be giving more options to them. While some authors do delete anon reviews, most do not. If authors have not abused that feature, then they will not abuse this one. In the end, it is a deterrent to trolls and flamers. Plus, authors won’t have to report every flame to the admins in order to get it removed.

    So, the review option will still be there for the reader, but it is up to the discretion of the author to delete it.

    I am speaking from the perspective of a reader and a writer, by the way.

    Thank you for your time.

     
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