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Compatibility Update

20 Mar

We have resolved some issues with our last update and this post has been created to be the central list for problem reporting and fix announcements.

Note that browser compatibility is very difficult due to different os, screen resolution, device type, and browser vendor but we have already resolved some of the first reported problems and are working hard to knock off the rest shortly.

If you are having browsing problem and the issue  is not part of the list below, remember to include your screen resolution, browser, and os version so we can better understand the underlying cause.

Pending issues with fix coming:

  • Dark theme within story page.
  • Table column sorting for some admin pages.

Resolved Issues.

  • Fixed. FP. Forum action links pointing to FF.
  • Fixed: FF. Some menu links always going to anime.
  • Fixed: Not able to sort stories or view favorites within member profile.
  • Fixed: Small font problem.
  • Fixed: Unusually small font in IE8.
  • Fixed: Font too gray/light issue.
  • Fixed: Middle mouse click to open in new tab not working due to 3rd party bug.
  • Fixed: Font is half-size too big on some Firefox browser.
  • Fixed: Font is two size too large on some Opera browsers.
  • Fixed: Stats graphs crashing on some browser and too wide/growing on others.
  • Fixed: External links in profiles not working.
  • Fixed: Spacing between paragraphs more compact than before.
  • Fixed: Issues with old Windows XP/Vista pcs.
 
408 Comments

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408 responses to “Compatibility Update

  1. Kimi

    03/20/2013 at 4:59 pm

    I don’t usually comment, but I’ve been browsing fanfiction for the past hour and I still don’t see what everyone is complaining about. The font is fine; actually, it gives it a cleaner look.

    A lot of people were complaining about how long it’s taking to bring out the updates and when they update the site, everyone complains. I’m just grateful that they care for the writer community and don’t neglect the site. ^^

     
    • nowistand

      03/20/2013 at 7:26 pm

      I agree whole heartedly with you. I like the loo and don’t see why everyone is complaining. Change is good. Now yeah I did notice that the text looked more of a dark grey than black and that it is possibly a bit smaller but by no means was it to light. And for text size, I don’t know what to tell you.

       
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 7:55 pm

        The dark grey color is supposed to actually help people with learning disabilities read easier because it isn’t as stark of a color contrast. I believe that’s why they implemented it.

         
    • Casey Mariam Beauchane

      03/21/2013 at 2:42 am

      Personally, I didn’t even see the need for this update. The one thing that’s irritating me is I keep skimming and skipping lines because the paragraphs are too close together.

       
  2. Guest

    03/20/2013 at 5:08 pm

    Please change the review box to how it was before. Where you could add a story or author to your alerts or favorites without having to leave a review. Some people will jutst not leave a review and while I understand this change was probably done to encourage readers to review I really don’t think it’ll work.

    Also the add thing on the side of the review box? Can understand it on profile pages but on the story. Please, no!

     
    • ShikiKira

      03/20/2013 at 7:39 pm

      Actually, if you click the favorite/follow button a box will appear and you’ll just have to check which ones you want and hit enter. You don’t have to review to favorite/follow a story, but I would like to have the old review box back too.

       
  3. Astra

    03/20/2013 at 5:22 pm

    Could you please change the amount of posts per page on forums back to 50? 50 fits evenly, it’s not too many posts on one page but not too little, and you don’t have as many pages.

    The new forum pages are also not very nice looking. I’ve found that most people prefer the old style. While it’s nice to know there are admins who try to take care of the websites, if it’s boy broke don’t fix it comes into play. I honestly prefer no updates to so many unneeded ones.

     
  4. Unyielding Wish

    03/20/2013 at 5:26 pm

    The font size wasn’t “small” before…

    The text in the story looks all bunched together now, even when the paragraphs are quite short. For long chapters/stories, this induces chagrin from readers who are interested in the story but their eyes hurt from reading so much.

    And what’s with the new reviewing style anyway? :/

     
    • ChannyLoliver

      03/20/2013 at 5:43 pm

      IKR. Terrible.

       
  5. The 17th Immortal

    03/20/2013 at 5:37 pm

    And now it’s exactly the opposite problem: the font size is excessively large, with no functioning way to adjust it, in or out of stories!

    (I’m running IE9 on Windows 7 Pro, by the way.)

     
    • Graham King

      03/20/2013 at 6:21 pm

      have you tried ctrl +/- to adjust the font size? That works for me (windows 7 latest version firefox)

       
  6. ilGyhs

    03/20/2013 at 5:38 pm

    I liked Verdana. We all liked Verdana. We liked it in the size it originally was.
    PLEEEEEEEEEASE BRING VERDANA BACK PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. THE NEW FONT IS WEIRD.

     
    • Callisto

      03/20/2013 at 5:52 pm

      Agreed. The size and style of the font was perfect before. This is too hard to read at both the smaller and larger settings – it’s making the paragraphs look wonky and spaced weird.

      It’s a site about writing. The main focus should be on providing a good reading experience, not trying to make it look slick and fancy for the sake of aesthetics.

       
      • Sam

        03/20/2013 at 6:19 pm

        Please lets just go back to the original font

         
    • Sixteen Vanilla Beans

      03/20/2013 at 6:02 pm

      I totally agree with you. The new font and size really hurts my eyes and everything is too big. I really want the old way back.

       
    • ShikiKira

      03/20/2013 at 7:41 pm

      Same. The new font and font size are giving me a headache. We’ve already gone over about the font before with Arial, and so why don’t you guys just stop messing with the font already and leave with the good old Verdana!

       
  7. draconious

    03/20/2013 at 5:38 pm

    What did you do to the site?! Everything looks massive and is painful too look at let alone read. What was wrong with how you had before? At least that I could actually look at and read, I am running IE on windows7. I can’t fathom what possesed you to ruin what WAS a usable site, but I humbley beg you to fix this.

     
    • nowistand

      03/20/2013 at 7:30 pm

      Here’s the thing: it is usable.

       
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 7:53 pm

        I think it is better to say, “it is still usable”.

         
      • nowistand

        03/20/2013 at 7:56 pm

        Yeah, that makes more sense. Still both get across the point that the site is usable, still just ads in that it was usable before hand to, which it was.

         
  8. Shen

    03/20/2013 at 5:42 pm

    I really don’t like how the font is with the new update. Everything has been enlarged way too much, and the font size changed into something else that’s making my eyes water when I try to read. And the entire interface just feels all floaty like it’s not solid. Words aren’t in solid colors, just light grays, which makes the reading experience even more aggravating.

     
  9. Guest

    03/20/2013 at 5:48 pm

    Now the font is just too huge. Why can’t the older one stay? We were all happy with that one. There was no need to change it in the first place. Also, links aren’t working in profiles right now. The screen is just black when clicked on.

    Running Vista, Browser Chrome.

     
  10. Sixteen Vanilla Beans

    03/20/2013 at 5:49 pm

    I hate the size of the letters and the font doesn’t look like verdana! Everything looks too big and makes the website look like it was designed for little kids. The size actually hurts my eyes. It is way too big!

     
  11. ahdora

    03/20/2013 at 5:53 pm

    Links within profiles are still broken. Page becomes greyed out as previous, but text asking if one really wants to leave FFN as well as actual link seem to embed into the profile rather than become a usable pop-up. Attempting to click link through page ‘grey out’ results in return to profile as though action were cancelled. (Windows Vista, Firefox 19.0.2)

     
    • ahdora

      03/21/2013 at 12:30 am

      Have noted that external links from profile pages is now fixed (WinXP, Firefox 19.0.2) but and a little put out by the aspersion that all external links are labelled as “unsafe”. Yes, FFN is not responsible for their content, but it’s vaguely slanderous to label all external links as unsafe without due cause.

      A simple warning that FFN is not responsible for content of the link would suffice, really.

       
  12. Michelle

    03/20/2013 at 5:54 pm

    The display/font in Fanfiction.Net has gone huge and is way too big, so it is uncomfortable for my eyes. Is there any way to get it back to what it was?

     
  13. Jaymzy

    03/20/2013 at 5:59 pm

    The main drop down menu is completely opened up and fills a page no matter where I am in the website. I have to scroll down a full screen length whenever I go to a new page.

    (Don’t know, Safari and IE at my school)

     
  14. Eparasite

    03/20/2013 at 5:59 pm

    I’m running a mac and the category selections are not working for me

     
  15. Fishtank

    03/20/2013 at 6:03 pm

    No, no, no, no, no. I am not happy with this at all. Do you know how many people will be abusing that Report button? People are vicious enough as it is. Readers can hit that button willy nilly without actually taking the time to consider if the story is a real violation.

    Hopefully, though, it will track people’s ip address so that they can’t report the same story multiple times. .

     
    • nowistand

      03/20/2013 at 7:34 pm

      Umm… Are you breaking the site rules? For controversy, they might abuse the report button but actually, the only time you’ll really be reported is when you break the site rules.

       
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 7:51 pm

        And if they do report you and you don’t break the rules you won’t lose your story either.

         
    • Spyridon

      03/20/2013 at 10:53 pm

      I have to agree with the other two.

      But I think someone on this blog mentioned that knowledgeable users can changer their IP address.

       
  16. Angelmorph

    03/20/2013 at 6:06 pm

    I’m still having issues sorting alerts (as well as favourites and followers in my stats) by date vs alphabetical order. I’m running Firefox 19.0.2 and I.Explorer 9.0.14 on Windows 7.

     
  17. yaoifan101

    03/20/2013 at 6:10 pm

    I agree I hate the new font size! It looks so much less professional! That and I hate that the blur bar at the top of the screen isnt’ there anymore! It makes the page too long and it’s harder to find stuff now!

     
  18. yemi hikari

    03/20/2013 at 6:16 pm

    My comment is going to likely get buried under all the complaints that are coming in, but I’m getting tired of people complaining about the new font style the site has. First its too small, now its two big. I’m thinking this all runs down to a case of the people having problems not because there really is a problem, but because their eyes are having to get used to the new changes on the site because their minds are still trying to wrap around the idea that the site looks different.

     
    • ahdora

      03/20/2013 at 6:28 pm

      Don’t mean to antagonise, but your experience will differ from others’ simply by virtue of OS, browser, and screen resolution differences. The initial complaints about small font were from Windows users, while MacOS users were seeing font that was much larger. While the size seems to have normalised for most users, it’s larger than the old Verdana and there are still some issues with the built-in resizing buttons.

      Eye strain is a real issue for anyone using a computer for any length of time. The purpose of FFN is to allow people to read (for hours, usually) and proper font and font spacing can minimise their contribution to fatigue (and thus maximise exposure of their ads to readers, which is one of their main goals, really).

       
      • Guest

        03/20/2013 at 6:42 pm

        I’m on Windows and had no issue with the initial font size. The site looked great, IMHO. I wish they would shrink it back down.

         
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 7:07 pm

        I fully understand that a persons experience will differ based on those things. AS someone below me pointed out though, you can’t really determine how much fatigue is actually being caused by the change as with any such change your eyes and mind have to get used to the fact it has changed. Yet its not yet been twenty-four hours and people are complaining, some of which just looked at it for a few minutes rather then trying to get used to it.

         
    • Guest

      03/20/2013 at 6:39 pm

      I was on FFN when the new theme rolled out. I seem to be in the minority since I really like it — very clean, fresh and streamlined. The new font is nice and the size was consistent with fonts on other webpages I view.

      A short while later, it seems the admins upped the font size. It’s okay, but I much preferred the smaller size. Now it seems huge — I was adjusting my browser’s zoom, but I’m trying to get used to it. It’s just so… big, lol.

       
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 7:11 pm

        This… this is why I made the comment I did. What is ideal for one person isn’t going to be ideal for another and thus some people are going to have to adjust to the new text. And because the site rolled out a new theme, they can’t go back to the old look either. Particularly since the reason for rolling out the new theme was to give the site a fresh, new look.

         
      • Guest

        03/20/2013 at 8:50 pm

        I get that what is ideal for one person isn’t going to be ideal for another. My only issue with the new design is the increased font size. Let’s see I can explain the jumbled thoughts in my head clearly. 😉

        With my current browser settings, the text on the bulk of the sites I visit is in the 10, 11 and 12 point range. The same was true of the old layout and the initial rollout of the new theme.

        Now it’s significantly larger on my screen while nothing has changed on other sites. I think someone else touched on this earlier (not sure if it was on this blog post or the previous; there are so many).

        If I’m on FFN for a while, I start to get used to it, but as soon as I navigate to another site, it’s jarring. It’s also jarring when I’m online and pop over to FFN and get hit with the big difference. The original new font size the admins loaded was perfect, IMHO. As I have stated before, I am largely happy with the new theme. It’s a refreshing change. I just wish I didn’t have to play with my browser’s zoom.

         
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 10:36 pm

        Explaining it in those terms makes a lot more sense then saying its too small or too big really.

         
    • Song

      03/20/2013 at 7:34 pm

      Orrrrrr, wild and crazy idea here, they could _give the users more options_ in font display. I tried what controls there are, but apparently the text is already as small as it will go. How about adding a few more levels of sizing to the options? How about offering a serif font rather than just a verdana/arial choice? Then users could read in whatever style causes the least strain for them. (And please don’t tell me adding those options would be prohibitively difficult. It’s a basic css change working with the browser’s built-in functions; if a site the size of ff.net can’t do it without crashing they have bigger problems than needing a “fresh new look”)

       
    • nowistand

      03/20/2013 at 7:36 pm

      I agree, people are complaining because things didn’t stay the same. Big deal. I actually like the new look.

       
    • Spyridon

      03/20/2013 at 10:57 pm

      I didn’t like how the filters were on so many lines and for the font was big. So what I did was zoomed out a bit. Now the reading is manageable and the upgrade doesn’t look that bad but I still miss the old look of FFN. To me, it was more sleek and clean.

       
  19. Graham King

    03/20/2013 at 6:17 pm

    Any chance of allowing us to block anonymous reviews, or even a reply to tell us why this option was removed, or do you like your authors being abused by people hiding behind the anonymity of their keyboard, I’ve been asking this since August last year, what do you need to do to get a response?

     
    • yemi hikari

      03/20/2013 at 7:20 pm

      This has been discussed many times. As TheAnnoyingVoice said below me, “It’s mainly because some authors will abuse that feature to block genuine reviews containing constructive criticism. A lot of people seem to struggle when it comes to understanding what reviews are flames and what reviews are trying to help an author improve their writing.

      On top of this anonymous flamers typically come and go as quickly as they show up. If someone is indeed being harassed by an anonymous flamer then blocking anonymous reviews will not help because, a.) they have been targeted for a particular reason and b.) people can easily create sock puppet accounts to get around the block if they really want to harass someone.

       
      • Graham King

        03/20/2013 at 8:46 pm

        I don’t mind constructive criticism, most authors welcome it, but why should I have to read foul and abusive language from an anonymous source. Personally I delete all guest reviews, positive or negative and know of many other authors who do the same, all I want is a reply from someone telling me why this option was removed, even if it’s just to say sorry we can’t do that since our update, some official acknowledgement would be courteous, Xing seems to be able to answer other questions but ignores this topic.

         
      • Guest

        03/20/2013 at 9:06 pm

        @Graham King: Maybe I’m missing something, but at least you can delete abusive anonymous reviews. If you only permit logged-in users to leave feedback, someone can easily create an account and write those same abusive comments — only they will be far more difficult to remove.

        I’ve had very positive experiences on this site, so that might be why I simply can’t wrap my head around this hatred of anonymous reviewers. If you have a policy of deleting all unsigned reviews, it’s easy enough to delete them without even reading the content.

         
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 10:43 pm

        @ Guest – I remember when I first joined the site and I spent a lot of times in the forums. There were a lot of people who had the anonymous reviews blocked because there was a false belief floating around that flaming via anonymous reviews was a prevalent thing. Truth of the matter is, while there were a few unsigned flames more often then not they’ve been signed reviews, not unsigned that were the most prevalent.

         
  20. Vladdywolfire

    03/20/2013 at 6:33 pm

    The search bar and hapter bar need to be dark.

     
  21. ReyDunn

    03/20/2013 at 6:36 pm

    I dont normally go through the main FFN homepage, I have the HP section bookmarked… So all these errors and changes are new to me… all I want to know really is why did you change the layout of the pages? I really hate when websites do that, like when Facebook would constantly change things… Why is everything so.. bleached out in color? And why did you change the font and/or size? There was nothing wrong with the original! Ive been coming to FFN for years, why the sudden change? At least can you set it so old time users like me can stick with the original?

    If its not broken, dont fix it. You only made it worse. Much worse. I dont even want to read anything anymore, its too disconcerting. Also, how do I email the FFN admins? I dont see where they post this information? PM me the answer please, Im not a forum user, this is all too new to me and frankly I dont want anything more to do with it.

     
    • nowistand

      03/20/2013 at 7:41 pm

      “If it’s not broken, don’t fix it.”

      I hate this mentality. I also hate this phrase. Why? People use it as an excuse. The real meaning doesn’t exist anymore because people now a days use it as a way to try and stop change. Change is good and as time moves forward, it *has* to happen. What if we said that when the TV first came out? Would we still have black and white, soundless televisions? When we got Pong if people said that, would we still just have pong? No Mario, no Sonic, no Halo, no Call of Duty, and no Pokemon?

       
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 7:50 pm

        There are only two things I can think of that you can apply that phrase to really. First, it applies to the writers who think they can write a better version of an existing fandom that didn’t have problems in the first place and doesn’t need a better version. Second, it applies to the way a person looks and cosmetic plastic surgery versus the stuff done for actual medical reasons or because someone was born with a birth defect.

         
      • nowistand

        03/20/2013 at 7:53 pm

        I agree with you Yemi. Improvement is nice, so is change and I’ve always that with that phrase it tells people not to improve things and not to change them.

         
    • ShikiKira

      03/20/2013 at 7:46 pm

      The info for updates are always posted on the homepage. Just go there if you see an update happens. Click the link and it’ll send you to this blog.

       
  22. ChristyA

    03/20/2013 at 6:39 pm

    What on earth have you done to the site? It looks terrible, huge like a large print book! It seems to be on the smallest font option and still looks massive. I know it’s possible to zoom out in my browser, but why is it even necessary – there was nothing wrong with the font before! Please put it back, it looks ridiculous.

     
    • nowistand

      03/20/2013 at 7:43 pm

      If you can zoom out then why don’t you?

       
      • Gorillazfan-102

        03/20/2013 at 7:53 pm

        Because who wants to keep zooming out everytime they click on another page or another chapter of the fanfic they’re reading. It’s just annoying. Change May be good but I really don’t like the new font plus the if you’ve notice the font makes the page look like as if there’s some sort of glitch. In My opinion it’s stupid. No Offense.

         
  23. greenleafarrows

    03/20/2013 at 6:44 pm

    I liked the original font size better; right now, for me, it’s a bit too large and makes the reading seem weirder, although that might be me just not being used to it. Also, I don’t really like how the spaces between the lines are smaller now; makes it harder to see paragraphs…

     
  24. TheAnnoyingVoice

    03/20/2013 at 6:45 pm

    I have to agree with you, Yemi. The font changes are like getting a new prescription for glasses. You change to the new pair, but everything is way too big and much too bright and a bit blurry, but if you wear them for a little while, your eyes will eventually begin to adjust. It’s the same thing if you switch back to the old pair. That goes for the site font too. Once we get used to it, the strain will no longer be there, and we’ll all be able to read stories happily.

    And Graham King, I think the issue of blocking anonymous reviews has been discussed in previous threads. It’s mainly because some authors will abuse that feature to block genuine reviews containing constructive criticism. A lot of people seem to struggle when it comes to understanding what reviews are flames and what reviews are trying to help an author improve their writing.

    I personally agree with not being able to block anonymous reviews as I’ve seen some pretty despicable moves from various authors who will actually delete their whole story just because they don’t want to see negative reviews period, whether their genuine or not. Think of it this way, a movie director who has been receiving nothing but negative reviews from movie critics and viewers alike, isn’t going to track down every single movie that had been released just because it got bad reviews, right? So, we as authors need to take every review in stride, be thankful for the good and bad and the ugly and screen shot the ugly, or provide a link to that particular review. Maybe the admins can block the IP address or something like that. I don’t know.

    For now, though, I think we should be thankful we can at least moderate them.

     
    • Sue Stone (@knittingknots)

      03/20/2013 at 7:27 pm

      The best font choices are ones where the reader doesn’t notice the font, but the message. We’re obviously not there yet for some folks. But for most people (not all – there are some conditions, especially with dyslexia or vision problems where font can be a real issue), familiarity will settle things down. Personally, I think the site reflects the new paradigm on web style…it’s hit Google and several other places…there’s some things the esthetic side of me would do differently, like the spacing on the stats page, but for the most part, it looks nice and clean. I would darken some of the grayed text, perhaps, but for the whole, it’s not too bad, now that some of the real initial bugs are getting worked out, although I still prefer other type fonts. But that for me is esthetics, more than readability.

      And yeah, I used to block anonymous reviews; given the choice, I would still do it. But most of my anon reviews have been by people who forgot to log in, or don’t log in, but read regularly, so I have been pleasantly surprised. But evidently I don’t do stuff people find controversial or want to harass me over. I might be less happy if it was happening to me.

       
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 7:45 pm

        I think this whole thing runs down to aesthetics for most people rather then readability, but they won’t realize this is true for a few days.

        As someone who writes satire and such I think getting such reviews should be expected if you want to head into such territory in the first place. People also should watch how they act. One of the young writers I know of has made herself a target for anonymous flames because she threw an emotional tantrum when people left her critique.

         
      • Sue Stone (@knittingknots)

        03/20/2013 at 8:19 pm

        Overreacting to critique is opening yourself up to reaction, yep. Seen that happen a lot.

        Yeah, I suspect most of us will get used to the new stuff soon enough. I’ve been trying out most of the features this afternoon, and it seems to be working quite nicely now.

         
    • yemi hikari

      03/20/2013 at 7:31 pm

      I like the way you compared it to getting an new pair of glasses.

      Within the last two to three months I reviewed a story that I liked, but needed to be edited for some reason. It was either because they needed to remove some song lyrics or some sort of technical issue. I told them I was actually looking forward to an update as I liked the story. They deleted the fanfic and a week or two later they re-posted it saying they messed up and accidentally deleted the story. I went to review, only to find myself blocked.

       
      • Spyridon

        03/20/2013 at 11:03 pm

        I also dislike the writers who want critique but when you give it to them, they throw an emotional fit. Sometimes I wonder if FFN should hire psychologists and psychiatrists to monitor them. (just a nonsensical thought, not a suggestion)

         
      • Spyridon

        03/20/2013 at 11:09 pm

        Forgot to mention, when I got my classes, I was more like I can see the bloody letters.

        As I said before, I’m adjusting. Just hit ctrl and – to zoom it out. Now it’s way better than before.

         
  25. Waffles~

    03/20/2013 at 6:55 pm

    I agree with what other people said on the font squishing the letters too close together. Just gives me more reason to skim first chapter for quality, send to my kindle to read there, and review if I enjoy it.

     
  26. Brandi

    03/20/2013 at 7:05 pm

    I’m on my iPod and I use it to read fanfiction story’s and I find the font to small and bunched up, honestly I liked how it was before the updates, I could read story’s on the regular site and not have to squint my eyes to see the words even when the background is black.

     
  27. WinchesterGrl09

    03/20/2013 at 7:11 pm

    My font is about a size and a half to two sizes to big. The space between paragraphs is practically nonexsistent, making it very difficult to determine where one paragraph ends and the next one begins. Please fix the font size for OS WIndows Vista and browser IE 8. I believe that is the information you need.

     
  28. theintangibleinsanity

    03/20/2013 at 7:24 pm

    Could you please change it back to the old font? I liked it better, it’s not as cramped as this one!

     
    • nowistand

      03/20/2013 at 7:45 pm

      And some people like this one better. Not everything revolves around you.

       
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 7:56 pm

        I personally like it better. Its a situation where someones going to lose out.

         
      • Someperson

        03/20/2013 at 8:05 pm

        If the comments are anything to go by, the vast majority of people don’t like this change. Not everything revolves around you either…

         
      • favonilla

        03/20/2013 at 8:45 pm

        @someperson – your logic has one slight flaw: research has demonstrated people who dislike something are much more likely to speak up than people who like it (ask anyone working in a customer feedback department – the clients who are happy hardly ever say a word, but the ones who aren’t shout it to the heavens, repeatedly and with gusto.). So it’s entirely possible, even probable, that a lot of people who either like the new look or don’t care one way or the other, aren’t as motivated to express their opinion as the ones who dislike it. So the comments here are not really a representative opinion for the entire mass of users.

        Some of the complainants are giving good reasons why it’s not working for them; but I wouldn’t be after paying any attention to anyone whose argument is “grr i hate it i hate it change it back pleeeeeeeeez”. Those are the ones who, in two weeks time, will have forgotten all about it.

         
      • Guest

        03/20/2013 at 9:15 pm

        Good point, favonilla. Just being in the company of friends and coworkers backs up that research. I hear about more awful dining and shopping experiences than good ones. I’m guilty of it, too. I’ll gripe to anyone who will listen when I’m peeved, but I don’t rave about the good stuff with the same tenacity.

         
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 10:45 pm

        @favonilla – While many of the others will have their complaints taken care of once the site admins tweek the font size and the few other things that any site needs to tweek when they do something like this.

         
      • nowistand

        03/21/2013 at 2:05 am

        @Someperson – I didn’t like Outlook when I was forced to change over to it but now I’m fine with it. I’d still prefer Hotmail but hey, I’ve accepted that it isn’t going to happen. Before you go on about it being to cramped, try it out for a little bit, then come back and complain.

         
  29. Doctor Faust

    03/20/2013 at 7:35 pm

    The new font size is stupidly large and is a huge step backward in terms of improving visibility.

     
  30. TheAnnoyingVoice

    03/20/2013 at 7:46 pm

    Thank you. Comparisons and I are very close friends.

    Also, continuing on with the subject of blocking anonymous reviews… it’s not just anonymous reviewers that flame a story. Members can leave a flame just as easily as an anonymous reviewer can. But does that mean we should ask to have signed reviews blocked as well? It’s not fair to the readers/authors that actually want to leave decent, or helpful reviews.

    It also gets into the issue that was discussed many forums in which there would basically be no point of having a review system if authors were allowed to block anonymous and signed reviews. It may as well be taken right off the site, being a waste of space that nobody can use because no one will review due to some authors taking offense to any or all reviews with even the tiniest bit of negativity, and deleting them.

     
  31. Gorillazfan-102

    03/20/2013 at 7:48 pm

    I Don’t Like it get rid of it. The font is way too big and it’s giving me a massive migraine. Changing the font size, That’s just stupid

    Urgh, It’s giving me a bad migraine I feel like my heads gonna split open.

     
    • nowistand

      03/20/2013 at 8:08 pm

      Yeah I have a migraine too but not because of FF, because of people in general.

      “I Don’t Like it get rid of it.”

      Oh dear! Something displeases the great Gorillazfan-102! Call the presses and get the Calvary! Burn those stupid people at the stake and take the website down now!

      Hon, the world doesn’t revolve around you.

       
      • Someperson

        03/20/2013 at 8:27 pm

        Oh give it up with the smug, self gratifying ‘world doesn’t revolve around you’ crap. The font change is vastly unpopular.

         
      • Graham King

        03/20/2013 at 8:54 pm

        I think you mean Cavalry,

         
      • yemi hikari

        03/20/2013 at 10:54 pm

        @ Someperson – It is a two way street. A lot of the complaints have simply been “I don’t like the change, change it back” rather then comments about actual problems with the font and the ones that actually have information the site admins can use are getting buried.

        Also, as someone else pointed out… those who dislike something are more likely to speak out then the people who like something, so you can’t judge from the comments how popular or unpopular the change actually is.

         
      • ahdora

        03/21/2013 at 12:22 am

        @yemi hikari – Two way street indeed, but Someperson did have a point about the tone of some of the previous comments. It’s all well to politely disagree about disliking the changes, but talking down to those who do will not win any favours with them and they’ll be less inclined to read any arguments about why the new changes are good.

        No offence is meant to nowistand, but am having difficulty making myself read their comments after the attitude displayed towards other users.

         
      • nowistand

        03/21/2013 at 2:24 am

        @Someperson – The idea that I find this gratifying is stupid. I’m just saying what I want to say, I don’t find that especially pleasing, it’s just something I do.

        @Graham King – Spell fail X(. Thanks for pointing that out.

        @Ahdora – None taken. I’m an opinionated person so when I give my opinion, it can come off as harsh and rude. I don’t care about the feelings of someone I’ve never met and typically I don’t of even of my best-friend. I go for honesty, no matter how much it hurts and no matter what it makes others think of me. If you think I’m an ass go right on ahead, I don’t care and I’m not going to let it drag me down. I’m also sarcastic a lot of the time and I realize sarcasm isn’t always easily read through text. The migraine part for the reference wasn’t because of Gorillazfan102, I’ve been fighting one all day and the many people I’ve been around today haven’t helped either.

         
  32. JPB

    03/20/2013 at 7:51 pm

    For me, I’m actually glad that the font is LARGER since I’m legally blind and reading even with glasses is hard on the computer. It is the STYLE that is hard on my eyes, not the size. I always have to zoom in on the site to read it anyway but now the style hurts my eyes worse than the small size of the text did before the font style was changed. In fact, just the amount of time it took for me to type this caused a headache to begin to form.

     
  33. bookwormgal

    03/20/2013 at 8:06 pm

    I could adapt to the size and style of the new font in time if the space between paragraphs was a little larger or there was the possibility of indenting the start of each paragraph. It currently makes it a little difficult to tell the difference between two paragraphs. I preferred the old font, but that’s probably due to familiarity and the fact I am rather infamous in my family for a dislike of change. Like I said, I could adapt in time to the change if there was a way to make it easier to differentiate between paragraphs more easily. More spacing or the ability to indent would help solve that problem.

     
    • bookwormgal

      03/20/2013 at 9:47 pm

      Thank you for increasing the spacing between paragraphs. I know that there are plenty of complaints about the changes to the font and the layout, but I believe most of them will die down in time. Regardless of how it might seem, we do appreciate the efforts to improve the site for our use.

       
  34. SymphonicMetalChocobos

    03/20/2013 at 8:10 pm

    On the subject of blocking the IP address involving reviews, as TheAnnoyingVoice said, I think that would be a good idea, especially in the base of one author, true flaming, not constructive critisicm seen wrong, consistenting flaming an author’s stories, just to be mean, or otherwise, and if the author is getting their friends to help in being mean. If that happens, the author that’s bullying could be, if possible, banned from reviewing the bullied author’s stories as a warning. And if they resort to cruel PMs out of spite, be banned from the site for an amount of days, depending maybe on the PM itself or if they’ve sent more than one. Of course, for this to work, the author or someone would need to report the person in the wrong, so the slow wait time for reporting would definitely need to be fixed, if it hasn’t already, I don’t know. I doubt it’s been fixed though.

     
    • yemi hikari

      03/20/2013 at 10:49 pm

      I believe they’ve done that in the past, given a forever ban to one of the serial flamers on the site. The problem with setting up IP bans is that the site admins have to investigate every case carefully. Some people also use more then one IP.

       
  35. Jane

    03/20/2013 at 8:11 pm

    Hi there,
    in Opera 12.14, Win7 (incl. all current updates) all text except the story (i.e. header, story list, profile pages) is blurry.
    No big problem because the story text is clear, but worthy of fixing.

     
  36. lulu

    03/20/2013 at 8:18 pm

    the font is too large. it was fine the way it was before, now it’s so big, and the spacing is weird. I have to take my screen to 75% to try to read it. at least give people the option to change the font back.

     
  37. bivious

    03/20/2013 at 8:19 pm

    Add another tally to the “dislike the new font” outside of stories (thanks for keeping Verdana as an option for stories!). It’s annoying to have to zoom out of the page with my browser, but that’s less of an issue than the lower quality of readability for the new font.

    Also want to say that right aligning the review box feels really wonky. Could you either put it back to centered, or just left align it? I can see where you’re probably going, with the chapter navigation buttons being over there, but it feels really cluttered and right heavy now…

     
  38. Winnie Morris (@pytwinnie)

    03/20/2013 at 8:19 pm

    It actually hurts my eyes to look at the site now, Everything looks completely washed out and I have to switch my brightness levels when I move from ff to another page. I don’t care about font, size, spacing etc… that I can get accustomed to but can we please do something about the colouring/resolution. Returning to what it looked like two days ago would be great

     
  39. petitedewdrop

    03/20/2013 at 8:22 pm

    Personally, I think the best, and most polite way that everyone should deal with the font issue is to calmly say something like, “This is how the font is showing up on my end…” and then proceed to give all of the required information such as: screen resolution, os, device type, and browser, as Xing mentioned in the Compatibility Update.

    I understand people are annoyed and getting impatient, but it all comes down to realizing that Xing and team are probably up to their nostrils in complaints, suggestions, and abuse reports as it is. These things take time. And because I haven’t already said this in any of my previous posts, I want to thank Xing and the team for all of the long hours of hard work that they put into keeping this site maintained as well as it is. I would get a headache if I tried coding. Even basic html gives me a headache. So, I tip my hat to all of you.

     
    • Guest

      03/20/2013 at 8:58 pm

      Nicely phrased, petitedewdrop. 🙂

      I’d hate to be on the other end fielding all the complaints. The new drop-down menus are sleek and the rounded corners give the site a more modern feel.

      I’d like to join you in tipping my hat to Xing and his team.

       
      • TheAnnoyingVoice

        03/21/2013 at 1:27 pm

        @Guest I’m happy to see other people agree with me about this. I think you, favonilla, yemi hikari, nowistand, and a few others are being very patient and sensible about the updates. The way I see it, everyone is continuously complaining about the very same issue: the front size and readability. Obviously Xing and the team are doing their absolute best to work out the bugs in the new update, as they even have a list of what’s been fixed and what’s not been fixed, but the main problem isn’t whether they’re doing anything about it, it’s the people who can’t seem to be patient.

        I used to work in the fast food industry, and the number of complaints and dissatisfied customers were maybe 10-20 in the run of a day. I look at these threads and I see close complaints by the hundreds. If one or two people have pointed out the same issue, I think it’s time to just back off at that point and allow Xing to complete the debugging process. With every new update, come bugs, and some of them you can’t just snap your fingers and declare it fixed.

        While everyone’s waiting for the font fix, try playing with the zoom level in your browser, or take a look at the browser options to see if there’s something you can do to change the font that way. Or while reading, use the font change option from there. Or even walk away from the computer for a while and check in a little later to see if it’s fixed.

        By the way, my username might keep changing as I signed up with petitedewdrop, but I prefer to use my fanfiction penname. I just keep forgetting to change it.

         
      • Guest

        03/21/2013 at 7:50 pm

        So you are both TheAnnoyingVoice and petitedewdrop? I’m jealous. Coming up with a clever username is hard for me and you have two. 😉

        It’s nice to find some calm voices in the storm. I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. When we are frustrated, our gripes probably sound harsher than we intend — and that’s only amplified online where we can’t hear the tone of voice or see the expression on someone’s face.

        But the name calling and sense of entitlement really irk me. Xing is providing a free service (a darn good one at that!). It seems if he and his team don’t jump when some users snap their fingers, they get in a snit.

        I’m one of the users who had an issue with the font size, but I tried to explain my opinions calmly. I suppose whether I succeeded in that is up to others reading, lol. I love the look of FFN today.

        Hmm, you must have the patience of a saint to work in the fast food industry. I worked retail once while in college. Hope I never have to again. This blog is serene next to that experience!

         
      • Guest

        03/21/2013 at 7:53 pm

        You must have the patience of a saint to *have worked* in the fast food industry. My clumsy fingers strike again.

         
    • favonilla

      03/20/2013 at 9:12 pm

      @petitedewdrop – I agree with all of this.

       
    • yemi hikari

      03/20/2013 at 10:51 pm

      I agree with this very much.

       
    • nowistand

      03/21/2013 at 2:26 am

      Well said petitedewdrop, well said.

       
      • TheAnnoyingVoice

        03/31/2013 at 1:54 pm

        @favonilla, yemi hikari, nowistand – Thank you. It’s always nice to read calm, and collected comments throughout all of the hubbub of the fonts, emails, and heaven knows what else. People just need to be more patient and understanding. But unfortunately, that isn’t going to happen.

        @Guest – It’s very easy to get upset with people when something doesn’t go our way, but that’s our nature. But there’s also a method we can use to calm ourselves down and think things over before blowing up at people. When we resort to name-calling and accusing people of not doing their job when they clearly are doing all they can… we’re honestly no better. Basically, it’s better to ask ourselves, “do I want to lower myself to a child’s standards, when I’m not a child?”

        But I agree with everything you said, especially about Xing offering a free site for us to use, and yet the majority of its users do nothing but complain, even when they don’t need to.

        Working in the fast food business was interesting to say the least, especially during the week of the 25th Anniversary for a particular food product. That was painful and I had many breakdowns. That’s why I give Xing and the rest of his team all of my utmost thanks for sticking with the site and listening to their users.

        Regarding my names, yes, I most certainly am. ^^ I use “TheAnnoyingVoice” for my penname, and had a bit of issue signing up for the blog, and randomly came up with “petitedewdrop” but I plan to use the first one from now on. If you’re interested in giving yourself a name other than “Guest” you’re welcome to use the latter. It won’t be confusing either considering I have a picture of my cat for my avatar, and you have some sort of abstract green triangle art for yours. 😀

         
  40. bloodsong

    03/20/2013 at 8:24 pm

    Missing Section:
    Control Panel: Community: Remove

    the Info/Guide says the last entry under the Community subsection should be “Remove:

    Delete the community and associated staff and archive. ” however, the last entry there is Stats, and there’s no option anywhere that I can find to delete a community.

    Also, how is one supposed to remove stories from a community?

     
    • bloodsong

      03/20/2013 at 8:25 pm

      oh, i found the remove. it’s under archive.

       
  41. WinchesterGrl09

    03/20/2013 at 8:27 pm

    Wouldn’t it be easier to simply make font size an option for the individual? Some people prefer the font size as it was yesturday and some prefer it how it is now. Why not make it so that the individual can adjust the font size for themselves. Personally I prefer how it was before. It didn’t strain my eyes like it does now. It was dark and not the greyish color it appears to be. Spaces between paragraphs was clearly defined and make it easier to follow the story. As it looks right now, reading a story is difficult. And not just because of the font size, the overall look of the site now looks like it has taken a huge step back. The way the site looked before looked better than it does now. I think the people from the site need to take all the comments into consideration and see what we are looking for. Not what they think we’ll like.

     
  42. classictrekker

    03/20/2013 at 8:30 pm

    Personally, the new font style is growing on me…I have one quibble, though. I hate having to pull up each individual story to see whether it’s received any hits/visitors on a given day. I realize I’m probably asking too much, but it would be nice if there were an easier way to check individual stories’ daily hits/visits.

     
  43. grmchild

    03/20/2013 at 8:33 pm

    Font size everywhere but the actual story is about a half size to two sizes too big or something on my system making it slightly unreadable as it either thins out part of the letters or thickens it unevenly. I’m using Windows 7 Home Premium with the problem occurring in the latest versions of Opera, Safari and Chrome.

     
  44. Vladdywolfire

    03/20/2013 at 8:35 pm

    The font is too light it needs to be dark.

     
    • Wight Mamba

      03/20/2013 at 8:48 pm

      I am unable to space out sentences in a paragraph format, FF.Net seems to think I am using a mobile device which is impossible seeing as I do NOT own a mobile device, It doesn’t register the fact that I hit the “Enter” key

       
  45. Fortune Maiden

    03/20/2013 at 8:38 pm

    I’m impartial to the new review box and drop down browsing, but can you make an option to change the Verdana font size? It’s too big!

     
  46. feminist4ever

    03/20/2013 at 8:38 pm

    I like the change. A little change always spices things up a bit. Adjusting is just difficult for us. Thanks to the site moderators for taking the time to make these changes and for not deleting this site or the changes instantly because of all the negativity. Though I would point out that the review box is a little nicer when it’s centered.

     
  47. OOH, Pretty ☠ (@IDropCupcakes)

    03/20/2013 at 8:39 pm

    The font is weird! I seriously thought it was firefox for a whole three hours before checking the home page to see if you guys had updated something. I’m all types of confused. It’s going to take me a while to get used to this font… however if possible, I wish you would change it back. I tried to modify it in firefox to make it look a certain way but it’s stuck in this font which is a little too big if you ask me… ugh.

     
    • nowistand

      03/21/2013 at 2:30 am

      Thing is, they probably aren’t going to change it back. If they lose a lot of revenue they probably will change it back but really, there are work arounds already built for those who want them and there are still people who like this new style. I’m betting that changing it back isn’t going to happen. If I’m wrong, I’ll give you a dollar.

       
  48. Filly8

    03/20/2013 at 8:43 pm

    I must admit that i don’t mind the changes that i have noticed this time around EXCEPT that darn font size! I tend to read a lot in one day and the scrolling previously was already annoying enough and now that has just massively increased. It also just looks huge; everything looks too big and awkward. The change happened int he mmiddle of reading and i thought i had zoomed in on my broswer by accident.

    Please focus a bit on the user font size controls. Currently (and for a while now) they haven’t appeared to work at all and i think it would allow for some much happier users and less compaining when you change the font. I personally would be (almost) totally fine with the change if you would just allow me to decrease the font size a bit more (back to where it was roughly).

    That said i do like the new rounded courners and so forth.

    Also there is a GLITCH on the pages now (for me at least). I normally read in the night mode (white text with dark background) but i went to check out the other day version after the update and the text is still white which makes the screen appear blank. I only know it is there because i can highlight it. Windows 7 is what i use and IE 8 (i believe..)

     
    • nowistand

      03/21/2013 at 2:31 am

      Oh that glitch happened to me before they changed the style as well.

       
  49. taptaprevenge123

    03/20/2013 at 8:46 pm

    Actually, I use Google Chrome, and I just reduced the zoom on my page to 90% instead of the default 100% so I could read some stories, which is still different but acceptable. I haven’t really noticed any problems or any differences other than the chapter selection buttons being changed to a lighter gray, but perhaps that’s because I haven’t actually uploaded any stories onto FanFiction.net and just read the same stories I’ve favorited all the time.

     
  50. M.Uchman

    03/20/2013 at 8:47 pm

    Font size fixed in some chrome browsers, you say? Well, not in mine! It is either too big or a different font in mine and it makes it hard on the eyes. Like I said in the last blog post, my chrome version is 25.0.1364.172 m. Please, for the love of GOD fix it so either its the old font or a smaller font size!

     

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