Forum Spams

26 Aug

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Posted by on 08/26/2013 in Uncategorized


128 responses to “Forum Spams

  1. yemi hikari

    08/26/2013 at 6:08 pm

    Question… should we forward spam PM’s here as well?

    • Xing

      08/26/2013 at 6:16 pm

      If but only if they are commercial spam. Ranting and puffing doesn’t count.

      • yemi hikari

        08/26/2013 at 8:47 pm

        Thanks. I asked because I’ve gotten quite a few of commercial spam reviews from over on FP.

  2. DonPiano

    08/26/2013 at 6:19 pm

    Is the Spam Report address exclusively for forums or can spam disguised as story submissions be reported as well to this address?

    • anonlulz

      08/29/2013 at 11:36 pm

      If it’s commercial spam, I’m guessing they’ll want it to be reported.

  3. Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

    08/26/2013 at 6:21 pm

    And spam “stories” (aka SOPA ‘warnings’) – can we send those here as well?

    Also, have you considered making a COPPA address and an image abuse address? Perhaps a plagiarism address (including copyrighted content not being reported by the copyright holder) and a general “abuse” address for anything not doled out to specific e-mail addys? That way support could just be used for “support”. 🙂

  4. philiptm

    08/26/2013 at 7:04 pm

    help my pm keep on sending the same messages

    • Xing

      08/26/2013 at 9:12 pm

      Phantom PMs?

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/26/2013 at 9:25 pm

      @philiptm – are you hitting the refresh button on your browser (or F5 on your keyboard) when you get notified you have a new message?

      If you are on the screen where you just sent a message, it *will* resend the last message you sent, because you are resubmitting the form you just submitted.

      You need to click on the Private Messaging tab again, then inbox, then the message in order to avoid this.

  5. Sam

    08/26/2013 at 7:55 pm

    I can’t continue with my stories…is Forum Spams the reason why?

    • Xing

      08/26/2013 at 9:11 pm

      What stories? Forum stories? Try to avoid spam keywords such as shop or money.

      • While

        08/26/2013 at 9:53 pm

        Is it going to be easier to report stories that are considered spam in the regular fandoms? This would make my day. There are so many trollfics out there now that it’s not even funny anymore.

  6. DLColvin (llothcat)

    08/26/2013 at 8:12 pm

    This has been bugging me.. There should be a “like” button for a story’s individual chapters. Some chapter I like more than others.

    • UJ

      08/26/2013 at 9:36 pm

      It might be easier to just leave a short review for that chapter.

      • DLColvin (llothcat)

        08/26/2013 at 9:58 pm

        Yeah, maybe. But a simple like button shouldn’t be that hard to whip up, either. Just have it record the data to a database, somewhere, or something. There are times when I’m too lazy feeling to write a review.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/27/2013 at 11:57 pm

        DLColvin – a quick search shows that you have 5 stories up on your 2 profiles on site. You have a total of 1561 reviews on your stories.

        How would you feel if every reviewer felt as you do – that it’s better to be lazy and click a like button than to take a minute and tell the author what you liked/didn’t like about the story?

        I don’t have many reviews, but I mostly write satire, so I don’t expect them. 😉 However, I can tell you that it means a great deal more to me for someone to take the time to say “I liked this” than it would for them to click a ‘like’ button.

        Would I like more detail? Oh, yes. Since you like one chapter more than another, does it not make better sense to explain this to the author than to have a ‘like’ button? Was it a personal preference that made you like one chapter better, or was it something that the author did differently? How will the author ever know what’s good, and what’s not, if all you’re doing is clicking a ‘like’ button?

        Is it so difficult to take a few minutes to write a short missive? No one’s asking you for a detailed critique on every chapter, but if you can take the time to read it, does it take so much more of your time to say what you think about it?

      • DLColvin (llothcat)

        08/28/2013 at 3:37 am

        “malicious cliques”?


        Ah.. I have no desire to make said button an up vote or down vote sort of thing.
        that’s what sites like Digg does, and nope, I don’t like it there either. At least I think Digg does that, I may be recalling reddit, but anyway. I still think the button would be a nice lil feature. You’d have to be logged in to even use it.

      • yemi hikari

        08/28/2013 at 12:23 pm

        DLColvin ~ Even if there was no “negative” malicious cliques could still abuse the like feature. We’re talking thirteen to fifteen year old girls who are known for being highly malicious at that age who will group like something just to make their groups stuff look better and purposefully veto liking other people’s stuff because they aren’t a part of the group.

    • yemi hikari

      08/26/2013 at 10:17 pm

      This has been brought up before many times and a lot of people have said they do not want this feature. The “like” system’s I’ve come across have all turned into popularity contests and works in the advantage of the clique mentality. Plus… many of us have said this. We would rather have a review then someone pushing the like button. And one of the things people discussed? The fact people would use it because they were to lazy to sign in and leave a review and that it would actually feed this laziness.

      So… no thank you.

      • Jordanna

        08/27/2013 at 10:44 pm

        THIS. So exceedingly much.

        I have an AO3 account, but it’s virtually meaningless to me, because I almost never receive any comments there. All I get is an autospam of, “somebody gave X story ‘kudos’ “. This tells an author nothing about what a reader liked in the story, or what they can improve. If I could exchange a dozen one-click kudos/likes/whatever for one review that expresses an actual thought about my story, I would.

        Even on FFN, I find that there’s been a growing trend of people simply favoriting my stories, without taking the time to put together a few short words in a review. However, an FFN favorite still has bit more value than a like/kudos, because it means someone enjoyed the story enough to put it where they can read it again. It’s not just a one-click “Oh. Nice. Bye.” I never want to see that here, on the only site where I can still look forward to getting a few notes of real feedback.

      • yemi hikari

        08/28/2013 at 12:20 am

        I’ll note that adding a story to ones favorite list also helps the story get new exposure because it means the more people that visit that particular persons page are going to see said favorite list.

      • DLColvin (llothcat)

        08/28/2013 at 2:34 am

        That’s just it. Most reviews I get are short, and may as well be a simple ” like” button. Since there are tons of writers here that also have deviantart accounts, it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to make this site somewhat similar to the that.

        Sure, I would love to have in depth critiques for my work at da, but the most I get is one or maybe 2 likes. Maybe a follow or two.

        In depth crits are more common at sites like conceptart( if they still exist, there was an announcement recently and all) but that site is set up as a sort of classroom for the most part. I don’t know about anyone else, but i dont see as a classroom type website.

        I wasn’t expecting that I was sticking my finger onto a hornets nest over this issue.

        I do like my reviews, but i am also
        capable of tracking the views my stories or whatever get.. anyhow..its just something I do for whatever website I put up– even my blogs.

      • bienfait

        08/28/2013 at 2:53 am

        Using a “like/dislike” system would make it way too easy for malicious persons or cliques to spam a story with negative votes, secure in the knowledge that they could neither be deterred nor moderated.

        If someone wants to leave approval but can’t be bothered giving constructive feedback, it takes three seconds to type “Good Story” and post it; and they don’t even have to sign in. IMO that’s a safer option. I think we can manage without the input of anyone who’s too lazy to do that

      • yemi hikari

        08/28/2013 at 3:23 am

        I will still take a review saying “Good Story” over someone clicking the button to like my story for the simple fact someone took the time to write those words out and push a button rather then someone just pushing a button. It is something that is way to easy to abuse.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/28/2013 at 5:23 pm

        @bienfait – *Thank you.*

        Shortest review I ever got? “Excellent!” – One word, but meant so much more than someone clicking a “like” button ever could.

      • yemi hikari

        08/28/2013 at 5:53 pm

        I’m also going to add that some of my readers… their first language isn’t English so what they write is typically “good story” or similar short phrases. Many don’t write longer reviews because they know their English isn’t good and it embarrasses them. Other ones are young readers, or I know they’ll say something more when they really do have something to say.

    • anonlulz

      08/29/2013 at 11:40 pm

      You mean like AO3’s “Kudos” system? Which is why few people review in there. They just click “Kudo” and that’s all.

      It’s very easy to ask for it when you have thousands of reviews, eh?

      If you can’t be arsed to review, don’t. Problem solved.

      • DLColvin (llothcat)

        08/29/2013 at 11:47 pm

        Look. I had an idea to share that could improve the site. No need to get nasty.

      • Simoneau

        08/30/2013 at 12:15 am

        For once, I agree with anonlulz. (Stop the presses!)

      • anonlulz

        08/30/2013 at 12:30 am

        OMG! Someone agreed with me! *explodes*

      • Simoneau

        08/30/2013 at 12:50 am

        I know – neither of us will have any credibility left after this…

  7. DonPiano

    08/26/2013 at 10:12 pm

    Would these anti-SOPA petitions be considered spam? They’re really starting to clog the story categories in almost every fandom.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/26/2013 at 11:43 pm

      DonPiano – that one has been deleted. A massive amount of them have been deleted, including one user (that I’m aware of) losing his entire account for spamming with this “content”. I sent them a list of 42 stories – only 4 remain.

      • DonPiano

        08/27/2013 at 1:14 am

        Good riddance. Did you use the new email address for spam to report all those petitions?

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/27/2013 at 1:43 am

        No. I had sent them to support before the spam address was created.
        Besides, he’s wanting to use that for commercial spam, so this wouldn’t have qualified.

    • cmcwiki

      08/27/2013 at 2:15 pm

      While its annoying at least their heart is in the right place

  8. The Imaginatrix

    08/26/2013 at 10:51 pm

    Off topic, but this is the latest blog post, so I thought I’d better use it.

    I’m having problems with the document editor. I don’t know whether its Firefox or my screen-reader (NVDA), but when I try to navigate the toolbar with the arrow keys, I’m either taken out of the editor altogether or sent straight to the last button in the list. I had to go and sign myself in on Internet Explorer just to add linebreaks, and I hate how IE renders the editor (I have to tab all the way to it and for every linebreak I add, I have to tab once more to get out of the editor to the save button).

    I use NVDA 13.1, the latest version of Firefox and Windows 7 if that helps. I hope you can fix this soon, as I’ve just become a beta reader and don’t want this problem disrupting my editing process, which it currently is.

    • seila

      08/26/2013 at 11:09 pm

      Tools > Options > Advanced

      The first tab within the Advanced menu is General. Make sure you’re there and uncheck “Always use the cursor keys to navigate within the pages.”

      • seila

        08/27/2013 at 5:01 am

        Ah, I should have mentioned this is specifically a Firefox problem and remedy.

      • The Imaginatrix

        08/27/2013 at 4:01 pm

        Thanks! I knew what you meant without reading your second post, so I just implemented it. 😀

        I just love it when problems are easily fixed.

      • seila

        08/29/2013 at 6:14 pm

        No problem 🙂

  9. theladykt

    08/26/2013 at 11:19 pm

    Just one more email address they can ignore

    • DonPiano

      08/26/2013 at 11:37 pm

      You speak the truth. They don’t even answer queries on their blog that well either.

      • anonlulz

        08/29/2013 at 11:46 pm

        Riiiiight. Keep telling yourself that.

  10. Spawny

    08/27/2013 at 6:17 am

    What say you do something spectacular, like answer reports and do something about them as well as the multitude of plagiarism cases, copyright infringement problems and MA rated content on the site instead of going for the pretty-shiny things, hmm? What’s the point of having another email address to report junk to if you won’t answer or do anything about the multitude of valid reports you get each and every day? This makes about as much sense as arguing with a wall. I think focusing on cleaning up a nightmare and doing something about it should come before superficial tweaks that look good.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/29/2013 at 6:18 pm

      Spawny, I agree that they should respond to the abuse mails. They get ten or more a day from me. I have a queue of backlog to send to them, and when they process the ones I’m sending now, I’ll start sending those in.

      Having said that, I don’t think that this was a “look good” tweak. This was actually something that, having been done, prevents them from receiving more abuse mail and will keep forums from being overwhelmed with spam threads that are created by bot accounts.

      Bots get “smarter” every day, and for Xing and his team to ignore that fact and not do something to go ahead and curb this issue would be poor management on his part.

    • anonlulz

      08/29/2013 at 11:48 pm

      Don’t like the website? Don’t use it.

  11. Applejack-loves-apples

    08/27/2013 at 10:03 am

    What about forums purposely put on a different language section? For example, an English forum put on the Spanish or French section. That happens a lot and it’s very annoying. Can we report that?

  12. ~Cherry!~

    08/27/2013 at 12:55 pm

    Fix the reporting abuse system.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/27/2013 at 6:23 pm

      “Fix” it how, Cherry? If there’s an actual technical issue you’re experiencing, you do need to provide them details.

      • theladykt

        08/27/2013 at 7:10 pm

        Think she is refering to the fact that they seem to be ignoring abuse complaints, esp those about plagiarism. MissCullen1990 keeps posting other peoples stories and thinks it hilarious.

      • jrfaaborg

        08/27/2013 at 8:14 pm

        Maybe if authors start removing their stories from Fanfiction and just post them elsewhere they will start to do something about it. But then again probably not.

      • yemi hikari

        08/28/2013 at 5:51 pm

        Sorry, but removing ones stories as a way to boycott the site does nothing and really honestly makes it so the rule breakers win. Because you know, they’re chasing people off.

      • anonlulz

        08/29/2013 at 11:53 pm

        What yemi said.

        It’s the most ridiculous bullshit you can do. I never follow little snowflakes out of the website, no matter how much I used to like their fics.

        Just report the story, spread the word on Twitter, Tumblr, Facebook, LiveJournal, or any other social media your fandom uses.

        The fuckwits who plagiarize fics will quickly remove them. And just leaving a signed review directing readers to the real story is another effective way to fuck with them, because they can’t remove those.

      • ~Cherry!~

        08/30/2013 at 9:49 am

        They take too long to respond the abuse complaints, the earliest you could get a response is within 3-4 years. One step to help could be hiring more people.

  13. jrfaaborg

    08/27/2013 at 1:17 pm

    Is there a reason FFn support isn’t responding to the authors regarding the plagiarism and abuse going on? Should we move our stories somewhere else?

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/28/2013 at 1:37 am

      jrfaaborg – the best suggestion I have for you and any others who have been plagiarised is to file a copyright complaint. The requirements, and address to send the complaint to, are under item 8 of the Terms of Service on site. But know that you can’t file one on someone else’s behalf – only for your own materials.

      They do respond quickly to DMCA takedown notices. Recently, they deleted user Yoshevil (aka Showtime of FIMFiction) in response to ShadeJak of FIMFiction’s copyright complaint.

      Unfortunately, moving the stories to another site does nothing; the thieves will continue their theft until their actions are curtailed by the administration. Personally, I’m of the opinion that every plagiarist should have their IP permanently banned. Not only would that keep them from creating numerous profiles, it would (in theory) keep them from accessing the site altogether so they wouldn’t be able to steal a story and post it on another site.

      • DLColvin (llothcat)

        08/28/2013 at 2:55 am

        IP ban wouldn’t work.. Especially if the abuser doesnt have a permanent IP addy, as is in most cases. Which is a total bummer.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/28/2013 at 12:06 pm

        I did say “in theory”. 🙂

      • DLColvin (llothcat)

        08/28/2013 at 3:07 pm

        However, basing it on email would work, esp since it looks as though Xing is encouraging the use of openid or gravitar, etc. I think he has a plan…:D

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/28/2013 at 3:17 pm

        Basing it on e-mail is even less reliable than IP. I have 12 different e-mail addresses. There are over 200 disposable e-mail sites in existence. Relying on e-mail as a means of banning – as the only means – is so unreliable it’s laughable.

      • anonlulz

        08/29/2013 at 11:56 pm

        lolololol IP ban

      • anonlulz

        08/30/2013 at 12:00 am

        Email ban is also pointless. You can have an infinite number of “addresses” with one Gmail account. (Of course, stripping dots, and anything between + and @ for email ban comparison fixes this.)

        Spamgourmet can also be used (they have many domains). If FFN were to block them, it would leave out legitimate users, though.

        They also can’t ban popular email services because not everyone can afford a domain and email hosting (especially since Google Apps is no longer free).

        All they can do is employ more people, if they are saturated with reports (which is what I suspect).

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/30/2013 at 1:54 am

        anonlulz, you do realize that there are some times that I don’t advertise little tricks like that so that the idjits who do troll the site and haven’t the intelligence to know how to manipulate their free e-mail provider won’t do it, don’t you?

        domain blocks can be done overall for disposable addys, and if it created a problem with enough users that weren’t able to get their address changed on their account, it could be re-evaluated.

        I’m not advertising how to manipulate the system around an IP ban either, because if someone hasn’t the intellect to find out, then I’m not going to show them. IF they were IP banned, it was for a reason – and frankly, I don’t want that racist “AngryOfficer” figuring a way around if he hasn’t.

        So please, ducks, do us a favor and don’t offer up such details. (Us being the users, honestly, because no one wants to deal with nastiness in their inbox every day just because someone’s trolling, yeah?)

      • anonlulz

        08/31/2013 at 1:09 am

        Oh, FFS, don’t be a moron on a high horse. lol!

        This stuff’s all around the web. If someone wants to circumvent the system, they will find it on instead of this blog.

      • anonlulz

        08/31/2013 at 1:22 am

        Aside from that, the email comment thing is used to prevent spam (for those idiots who leave their email addresses on public view), to help organize your inbox, and to verify that a place you registered your address on isn’t selling it to a third party.

        The dot-less Gmail address is common knowledge, spread by Gmail support since some idiots thought “i.diot@” and “idiot@” could be different emails.

        information is FREE SPEECH. Though, I’m guessing you’re not American. Otherwise, you’d understand.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/31/2013 at 3:03 pm

        You assume a great deal. You assume my nationality, you assume people know what Google is. You assume you are smarter than everyone else.

        I *know* you are no longer worth my time.

      • Simoneau

        08/31/2013 at 4:12 pm

        You also assume that Americans understand free speech. Current affairs suggest that Americans haven’t actually got a clue.

      • yemi hikari

        09/05/2013 at 4:27 am

        Considering we have members of the site who post RTB (reading the books) containing copyrighted lyrics who argue “freedom of speech”… yeah, there are a lot of people who don’t get what it means.

    • yemi hikari

      08/28/2013 at 3:25 pm

      Don’t move stories to another site. That’s the worst thing a writer can do, get rid of the date stamp on the story proving their story was written first.

    • anonlulz

      08/29/2013 at 11:54 pm

      This always amuses me. “OMG! AM GONNA LEAF!111”

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/31/2013 at 3:53 pm

      jrfaaborg –
      An example of why this will not work for you:

      (Yes, I have sent an e-mail to support about it. I also sent one to the Blair Partnership.)

      If the users of the site are willing to do that to a renowned and published author, they will do so to you as well. It will not matter that your materials are no longer readily available on FFN.

      Case in point also would be “MissCullen1990” who has *finally* been banned from the site, but continued to post content stolen from CristinaN’s wordpress account.

  14. cathrl

    08/27/2013 at 4:26 pm

    THANK YOU!!!

    Let’s see how it works. I’ve been deleting multiple of these things a day for weeks.

    Question: if one gets through, do you want me to leave it alone while I email you the forum link? Or can you still see it even after it’s gone?

    Not really wanting to leave adverts for illegal fake documents live on the forum…

  15. Jordanna

    08/27/2013 at 11:12 pm

    A little suggestion for an existing-feature tweak here, if I may?

    I’m a big fan of the ability to include story covers. However, it would be nice if we could designate a default cover for each fandom we write in; i.e., one that would automatically be attached to a story in a given fandom, unless and until we chose/uploaded a different cover for that story.

    I have general covers for several of the fandoms I write in. (Since, you know, I haven’t had time to make individual covers for all 130+ stories I have here.) However, I have to go find the right one and select it each time I upload a new story, and I find the selection menu for covers to be… well, a little clunky. The ability to set a cover that would automatically be used each time I upload a Fullmetal Alchemist story, for example, would be very useful.

    Maybe the coding to tie in fandom/category selection with story cover selection would be too difficult to set up, for all I know. But I just thought I’d mention the idea.

    • yemi hikari

      08/28/2013 at 12:37 pm

      I’m saying this as someone who has even more stories then you do. While the idea is interesting you can already do this with the cover system the way it is, it just takes a bit of time to get covers on the stories created before covers were added (or in the case of some writers before they realized they could add covers to stories).

      Most writers aren’t going to have as many stories as either one of us so it’s not going to take much to change the few fics they did. Even with as many stories as either one of us has, it doesn’t take that long to find a fandom specific picture (so much easier then finding cover art for a specific story unless you make your own), not much time to upload it and then not much time to change each stories cover art one by one.

      After a point in time said feature would honestly lose its value because people will move from adding cover art from older stories to adding cover art to new stories. On top of this having said feature would be an incentive for people to use copyrighted material for each fandom that they’re not supposed to be using. Like clips from the Ben 10 cartoon, rather then finding fanart that people have given permision.

      That said… you do make a valid point about how some people do want cover art specific to their fandom rather then their story, something I hadn’t thought of. (I do my own cover art and have done cover art for one other person but had never thought of specifically designing cover art that worked like the free avatars people use. So, I think I might do some of that.)

      • Jordanna

        08/28/2013 at 10:56 pm

        I don’t think I understand what you’re objecting to, and I’m not sure you understood what I was saying, either.

        In fandoms I’ve written a lot for, I *have* gone back into my older stories and attached generic, non-story-specific covers to them. But even in posting future stories, it would just be quite convenient to tell the site, “automatically use X cover when I post a story to X category/fandom”, instead of having to dig for my general cover for that fandom in the selection menu. Yes, it’s a small thing that would only save me a minute or so when I upload a story, but it would be nice. (And personally, it doesn’t lessen my desire to make a cover specific to each story. I just don’t have time for that now.)

        Short of that, I’d appreciate even a bit of redesigning of the cover-selection menu. Even something as simple as showing the most recently uploaded first (or having an arrow to scroll *back* from the oldest straight to the newest, instead of scrolling through every cover I’ve made to get to the one I just added) would enhance its ease of use.

        Also, the number of stories one has really isn’t relevant to the idea of choosing a default cover for stories in a category one writes in frequently. I definitely don’t imagine such a thing being retroactive. To me, it would be useful enough just for new stories.

        At any rate, if I gave you a good idea for something, I’m glad. 🙂

      • yemi hikari

        08/29/2013 at 2:38 am

        Slaps forehead. I don’t know why it went over my head that you wouldn’t have to worry about it later on because it was already taken care of. Particularly since you have to at this point go back in after you post the first chapter to change the image. My brain was not working…

    • anonlulz

      08/30/2013 at 12:03 am

      This makes me SO GLAD I use Stylish to hide the covers.

  16. pEtru_K

    08/28/2013 at 4:07 am


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      08/30/2013 at 1:01 am


  17. A.J. Goode

    08/28/2013 at 8:09 am

    There is a really annoying trend on FictionPress right now. Authors will post the first chapter of their self-published novel, and then end it with something along the lines of, “If you want to read the rest of this, go buy it on Amazon!”

    Since that is basically an advertisement, would this type of story be considered spam?

    • yemi hikari

      08/28/2013 at 12:25 pm

      Yes, but Xing may say otherwise.

    • Spyridon

      08/30/2013 at 11:57 pm

      I thought the point of FP was to be free and a way for author’s to express themselves? That’s sounds like a marketing tactic which might be against FP policy. And if it isn’t, it should be.

  18. yemi hikari

    08/28/2013 at 12:54 pm

    By the way… there is a question that I don’t recollect being asked of the site admins and if it was it never was answered.

    In regards to not using copyrighted images. I know that using a clip from movies and shows as well as book cover art isn’t allowed. What I’m not sure of… because I’ve seen other sites allow it… is the site admins stance on copyrighted images that have been photo manipulated. By that I don’t mean running a filter or adding a title mind you but where the artists splices multiple images from the copyrighted material together. Or is it only fanart and free to use photos?

    • yemi hikari

      08/28/2013 at 12:56 pm

      P.S. There is also the concept of “recolors”. If something is “obviously” a recolor of a copyrighted image is that reportable as well?

      • nowistand

        08/29/2013 at 5:48 am

        I say it’s allowed because of the same reason fanfiction is allowed, it isn’t the full source, just an image, a small portion that can even entice people to see the source material. We’re allowed to use characters and concepts, reviewers are allowed to use small segments, so why aren’t we allowed to use an image? Wouldn’t that fall under fair use?

        I’m not trying to say you’re wrong or anything but it seems like going with an image from source material is actually the safer way of going unless the publisher/production studio/whoever said no, just like with fanfiction. With fanart you run the risk of having someone come after you that actually gives a crap because if they can see the piece of art as someone’s profile pic or story cover, what’s the point in coming and looking at the actual piece unless you’re absolutely in love with it.

      • yemi hikari

        08/29/2013 at 7:21 am

        I honestly don’t have anything against photo manipulation. I do have problems with most recolors simply because there are people who think they’re creating amazing art work by scribbling on other peoples work, but on the flip side recolors can be great practice and some recolor artists go all out to the point you don’t recognize it is a recolor once it is finished. However, these tie back to the photo manipulation stuff.

        I simply want clarification on what is or isn’t reportable when it comes to copyright so I can say yes or no if anyone I know asks me. As it is, I don’t know the answer and actually have been suggesting to those who’ve asked that they side with caution.

      • yemi hikari

        08/29/2013 at 7:34 am

        P.S. You ask about whether or not using an image would fall under fair use or not. For it to fall under fair use you have to manipulate the image in some manner that makes it look different then the original. The more you manipulate the better. This is why adding text, running it through a filter or even cropping an image is may not considered to be good enough depending on the use. Avatars for example have more leeway.

  19. Laora

    08/28/2013 at 2:05 pm

    Hi, I’m pretty sure this is something on my end, but I can’t figure it out, so I thought I’d check here.

    When I went to login to the site today, the window looked like this:

    The code hasn’t been showing up for me for a while, now, but I’ve been getting around that by signing in via Google. But now that option is apparently missing as well?

    I’m using Chrome version 27.0.1453.116 m. I had Adblock Plus enabled, but disabled it to see if it would help. It hasn’t.

    Just slightly confused?? Thanks to anyone who can help me out.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/28/2013 at 3:23 pm

      Try updating your Chrome. Current version on my system is 29.0.1547.57 m
      I’m not having any issues with it. The Google option still shows for me. 🙂

    • Helper

      08/28/2013 at 8:14 pm

      You are using a browser extension that is altering the state of the website. You need to disable all extensions in Chrome to find out what is causing this.

  20. DLColvin (llothcat)

    08/28/2013 at 3:13 pm

    as for spam.. Allowing the authors to moderate their own reviews would be a plus.

    For forums, the creators of the thread would be given moderator status of some sort, just to lighten the load for the site operators.

    Heck, for that matter, there should be more moderators on this massive site. There’s a heck of a lot of spam, and junk posts. I’ve been guilty on occasion for such junk posts… Damn writers block….

    • yemi hikari

      08/28/2013 at 3:29 pm

      This has been discussed before. There are too many writers who would delete any form of negative review even if said review isn’t a flame or spam. Some people have argued that it is the writer’s right, but it’s not. It’s a privilege and not a right. Fact is, the reviews aren’t there just for the writer, they’re there for the other members of the site as well. Not to mention it would be a major deterrent for critiquing fanfiction. Why critique when you know certain writers will just delete your signed reviews? Spam should just be dealt with the site admins, particularly since those spamming stories are likely to be spamming other people.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/28/2013 at 3:34 pm

      re: review moderation
      I support review removal in the following instances: spam, flames, trolls.

      I do not support review removal in general. Reviewers that leave details which are intended to aid an author in writing – that are left in a polite and respectful manner – should not be something the author can remove at will simply because they don’t like being told that their fingers don’t belong to Midas.

      Those of us who had to deal with the nightmare that was KiaraLivie before she was *finally* banned had to deal with having racist, profane, personal attacks on our stories, or delete the story. Those I agree, an author should be permitted to delete. Having said that, this again would create another job for a moderator to undertake, because they would have to review and approve said removal.

      I don’t support authors being able to remove valid reviews.

      re: more moderators
      Until I support such a claim that the site needs “more” moderators, I would need to know how many it currently has. Sometimes, as they say, “more is just more” and could be a hindrance rather than a help. i.e., if Xing has 72 employees and 60 of them aren’t working at any given time, hiring more wouldn’t be the best idea. Culling the herd would be.

    • anonlulz

      08/30/2013 at 1:08 am

      Honestly, I’d get rid of the forums. Useless things.

      There are many, well developed, and free forum software, already hosted for free. MyBB, Pro Boards, and many others I can’t be bothered to remember. (That, or free hosting with those forums pre-installed.)

      It’s even better for proper RP groups, since it allows for plugins, avatars, and usernames that match the character they are playing, so on.

      • yemi hikari

        08/30/2013 at 4:00 am

        Just because they’re useless for you doesn’t mean they’re useless for everyone else. while it is true outside sites do have free forums people can create, it also means you have to create an account outside of the site to use it. This way you don’t have to and you can verify that the person you’re talking to is the person you’re talking too.

      • anonlulz

        08/31/2013 at 1:13 am

        How difficult is it to fill a couple of blanks in another website?

        “Oh, boo hoo! I have to register here too!”

        FFS, people. First World Problems ring any bells?

        The forums aren’t useful to anyone. I’ve been exploring them in major fandoms, and nobody ever replies. Only to post useless stuff no one cares about. Most people use LiveJournal (or DW), or Tumblr. None of those died yet from not using the lame forums on FFN.

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 3:21 am

        It’s not a matter of whether creating an account is easy, it is a matter of how many accounts people actually want to keep track of.

      • A.J. Goode

        08/31/2013 at 7:51 am

        I enjoy the forums on both sites. I find that they are a great way to find other people who write in the same genres. Some of the folks in the forums have been very helpful.

        I will suggest, however, that something should be done about the “dead” forums out there. I think they should be removed if they have no activity for over a year.

        When an account is deleted, all forums created under that account should be deleted as well.

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 2:13 pm

        Maybe two years. I’ve actually seen some forums revive after a years time.

      • Simoneau

        08/31/2013 at 4:14 pm

        @anonlulz – The ffnet forums are the lifeblood of some fandoms including ones I inhabit.

        Are you sure you’re not just playing in a paddock full of idiots?

      • Applejack loves apples

        08/31/2013 at 10:26 pm

        Oh lord, why people keep replying to this troll?

  21. Taylor

    08/28/2013 at 3:37 pm

    You may have gotten rid of spam, but someone your system, as of 10 minutes ago at 2:20 p.m in Texas, all pages reroute to a questionable site.

    • Xing

      08/28/2013 at 3:40 pm

      You may have a virus/malware infestation on your system that is altering/hijacking your DNS requests. We cannot reproduce this problem.

  22. Pelahnar

    08/29/2013 at 10:59 am

    Sorry, this is off topic, but I have a question and I didn’t know where to ask it. The main character of one of my stories isn’t listed in the character filter; I’ve been writing for this site for five years and until now haven’t written about anyone minor enough for this to be true. How do I request her to be added?

  23. Black Bubble

    08/29/2013 at 5:36 pm

    Been thinking about the OC slot, and about how many stories will never be set to OC due to so many not knowing about it. There should be an email sent out for big updates like that. I mean, sure I can filter out 400 OC stories, but there’s still gonna be 5,000 more without the proper categorizing.

    • anonlulz

      08/30/2013 at 12:11 am

      Of course! I’m sure simultaneously sending an email to ALL accounts will go splendidly with the server!

      The “ideas” some people have…

      • anonlulz

        08/30/2013 at 12:11 am

        And for such a pointless reason, true.

    • yemi hikari

      08/30/2013 at 4:02 am

      How can they not notice that the OC tag is there? Many people have been asking for it, and it’s now in every character fandom. Eventually they will notice.

  24. Ashleigh

    08/29/2013 at 6:52 pm

    Some of us have been having trouble with the loading of forums. You click to go back to the main page and it doesn’t load properly. It’s like a cache of the previous ‘look’ and I need to press refresh to see my new post.

  25. xraiderv1

    08/29/2013 at 7:07 pm

    I have a question that far as I can see hasnt been addressed here on the blog.

    the issue of sending links via pm.

    I’ve had occasion where a writer friend of mine’s needed information for, say, mass effect, and I can find the information on a wiki, yet the site filters links like that.

    my question is, is there a way to permit ‘helpful’ links like this? say show the user a prompt that says vaguely ‘a user has sent you an external link, make link visible?’ message. it’d keep to the spirit of the filtering while letting the user choose what links they want to allow.

    • bienfait

      08/29/2013 at 7:50 pm

      @xraiderv1 – This is indeed a problem. The standard solution in my fandom is, replace the dots in the URL with the word “dot”. Or add in spaces until the system no longer recognises it as a URL. The recipient can then put it back into the appropriate format. It’s more trouble at both ends, but it gets the information through.

      I believe the reason for not allowing links in PMs is to do with the difficulty of monitoring them to prevent users from being directed to malicious sites, or including inappropriate links in spam PMs and forum posts; not sure how much of a problem that actually was in PMs, but I can see the point in forums. But your point is valid, using proper URLs – even non-clickable ones – would be so much easier.

    • anonlulz

      08/30/2013 at 12:17 am

      All you need to do is replace the . in the domain with “dot” and space it out. Everything after the domain remains untouched.



      to: do (dot) dgysite (dot) com /balhablah?useless=crap

      So your friend only needs to copy the domain, replace (dot) with . and append the path.

      This is what I do all the time.

  26. Hotaru Muraki

    08/30/2013 at 11:15 am

    Somewhat unrelated question here! (Sorry, didn’t know where else to put it. T.T)

    What’s the ‘All’-filter in each category really for?
    All it does when clicked is to put up the categories in order of story-amount published instead of willy-nilly as before. That…does NOT make much sense, unfortunately. Neither is it really helpful when looking for a particular fandom since you’ll have to go through the whole list to find what you’re looking for. (Listing fandoms alphabetically would be SO much better, IMHO!)

    NO OFFENSE! The improvements have improved lots up to now, after all.

  27. angeleyes46

    08/31/2013 at 9:42 am

    what happened to ad blocker. how come its not on fanfiction anymore. i used it all the time.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/31/2013 at 6:54 pm

      angeleyes46 – I don’t think they intend to bring it back as it is a detriment to their income. The site has to have revenue to exist, and their revenue is ad based.

      If the ads do bother you, I recommend an outside adblocker that is compatible with your browser.

  28. lindasisilia

    09/10/2013 at 12:29 am

    what if there was a plagiarist who update the other troubling,but he plagiat,he owend stories acknowlediging,that he even publish the story that clearly,belong’s to another author does not belong to him,how to stop the action’s troubling like that??please help me?

  29. lindasisilia

    09/11/2013 at 1:22 pm

    please help me,this is about plagiator in ffn???

  30. lindasisilia

    09/19/2013 at 2:00 pm

    please chek plagiator; wiress SK kyuwman, allmystory please please

  31. cje24576

    10/17/2013 at 11:54 am

    I don’t know if this has anything to do with the topic, but I’d like to know anyway. I know for a fact that there was a forum category called “the tip line: post a story you think needs the CU’s attention”. It’s not there anymore & I wanted to know what happened to it. I really wanted to look at the posts. Thanks.


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