30 Aug


  • Faster page loads for all users.
  • Improved overall display quality for Image Covers.
  • Improved compatibility for uploads in Doc Manager.
  • Dropped support for ancient StarWriter (sdw) files with Doc Manager.

Please note we will be dropping support for Internet Explorer 7 (IE7) browser soon which is used by 0.6% of users. This is an advance warning so IE7 users can upgrade to IE8/9 and preferably IE10 which is a very good browser.


Posted by on 08/30/2013 in Uncategorized


232 responses to “Micro-Update

  1. Rko

    08/30/2013 at 11:42 am

    Need RSS.

    • aleyx

      08/30/2013 at 12:15 pm

      I approve of RSS, but ‘Need RSS’ at which level? Story? Author? Favorites? Followed? (All of the above?)

    • Ruri

      08/30/2013 at 8:26 pm

      I agree. The RSS feeds are greatly missed 😦

    • Queen Serenity

      09/01/2013 at 3:59 am

      Yes, please. Miss RSS

    • Paul Heintz

      09/02/2013 at 5:45 pm

      It has been torture not having those ATOM/RSS feeds since they’ve been in place since 2006 or so… Combined with the site changes my ability to check for what to read is completely messed up…

      I have currently 1531 profile feeds, 1 just in feed, 10 crossover feeds, and 10 non crossover feeds…

      Currently not all of them are working, and the other day something was messed with so that nearly all showed as updated when they were not…

      If they implement support for story feeds like I’ve been hoping for and asking for a long time, then I’ll have 2847 story feeds on top of the others…

    • Fluffy

      09/10/2013 at 11:23 am

      I thought I was the only one seeing this.
      I have a number of feeds from here and none of them seem to be functioning.
      Is there anything we can do to make it easier on the admins? (Other than not want it.)

  2. Jennifer White

    08/30/2013 at 12:11 pm

    Changing browser…again…

  3. cathy

    08/30/2013 at 12:17 pm

    The “All” filter button whoch switches the titles from story count to Alpha is dead in TV Shows – Cartoons – Comics – Games-.

    I have not tested it on the other 5 categories.

    This was last night on the home MacIntosh & here at work on the IE or Firefox PC.

    • Hotaru Muraki

      09/03/2013 at 11:09 am

      What cathy said. Also true for Anime – Movies – Books.
      PLEASE fix that!

  4. fems

    08/30/2013 at 12:28 pm

    Since you’ve apparently been fiddling with the Doc Manager how about making it so that certain symbols and scene breaks (horizontal lines) actually remain in the document one uploads? Now, I have to go through every doc to manually reinsert the horizontal line to indicate a scene break and I’ve heard from others that many symbols (even asterisks!) aren’t saved/shown in the docs either, even after adding them afterwards!

    • HarmonysLoveHP

      08/30/2013 at 3:16 pm

      I just use this, but in bold: x.x.x

      • fems

        08/30/2013 at 4:16 pm

        Yes, I know a lot of people use something like that, initials of the show’s name/pairing, or a single period in the middle etc, but I choose to use the horizontal line in Word* and don’t see why it has to be removed when uploading a doc when there is an option to add it in the Doc Manager itself. That’s different from removing all symbols used, since most if not all of them cannot be added manually again in the Doc Manager (or at least don’t get saved). Anyway, I don’t see why they removed the symbols in the first place (some were still usable up until a year or two ago) and don’t allow the horizontal line to upload, but do offer it as an option to add in the Doc Manager in the latter’s case.

        * I write my fics in a master document with web layout to see what it’ll look like (paragraph length and breaking off sentences etc) when uploaded as that is very different from normal layout, and since most of my fics are multi-chapter ones with over a 100K words it won’t be easy to spot the scene breaks if I use something small and easy to overlook when scrolling through it, hence the use of horizontal lines.

      • Spyridon

        08/30/2013 at 11:37 pm

        When it comes to replacing the scene breaks, I just usually ctrl + A and repaste everything from the open word document. Less time consuming then having to replace all the line breaks.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/30/2013 at 3:16 pm

      Concur on the symbols being removed even after saving. I was using them instead of the horizontal line, but the automatic deletion of the symbols from the document forced me to use the horizontal line to indicate scene breaks.

      • Erica

        08/30/2013 at 4:54 pm

        Agreed. I also use the web layout on Microsoft Word, and having to scroll through a chapter to spot where to put in the horizontal line is harder to do with longer chapters. As well as various other symbols not being able to stay in the document. If something can be done about keeping the formatting closer to the original document, then that would be great, thank you.

    • KageNoNeko

      08/30/2013 at 8:10 pm

      Well, I know a thing or two about moving stuff in Microsoft Word into a webpage since that’s what I do at work. Word has some code in it that can cause problems. I am thinking that the issues with the code that Word and other similar programs use causes some issues with doc manger being able to keep the formatting.

      • Erica

        08/30/2013 at 10:13 pm

        That’s interesting to know. Do you know how to keep it from happening or something? It would be useful to understand what’s wrong and how to get that tidbit fixed.

      • anonlulz

        08/31/2013 at 12:24 am

        Better use AbiWord or Wordpad, export to RTF or old DOC. It’s not like FFN allows much formatting freedom (thank GOD!).

      • fems

        08/31/2013 at 6:20 am

        Except this wasn’t an issue for a long time until FFnet started changing things on their end. It’s not just them screwing up formatting like you can see in certain old fics, but the removal of symbols and line breaks. I have only been writing and uploading fanfic since 2010 and since then certain symbols have been removed (they functioned fine prior to that) and line breaks were often either included or removed, seemingly at random. I guess the only good thing to say about is that these days at least the Doc Manager is consistent about removing it always…

    • doesnotloveyou

      08/30/2013 at 9:41 pm

      Though this has become less of a problem for me since I switched from Internet Explorer to Google Chrome, I still have to double check to make sure it hasn’t missed a few lines, like you (fems) said.
      I usually only have one or two horizontal lines on the original file, but I have to put in extra horizontal lines (or dashes, or what have you) to make up for the line breaks that are removed upon upload.
      Aside from switching to Google, I found the copy-and-paste process to keep a better hold on those kinds of details than the file upload process. Hope this helps until the problem is ultimately resolved.

      • fems

        08/31/2013 at 6:21 am

        I use Chrome as well. It’s not necessarily the recent copy/paste feature that works: if you simply copy/paste your story into the uploaded doc then it often includes the line breaks *or* leaves a blank space, making it easier to find the spots where you can insert them manually (as the blank space isn’t saved).

    • anonlulz

      08/31/2013 at 12:22 am

      To add the HR into existing chapters, you just need to export chapters into the DocMan, and replace your invalid breaks with the HR. Piece of cake.

  5. xraiderv1

    08/30/2013 at 1:05 pm

    been seeing google analytics misbehaving since the micro update, not fully loading on occasion,

    • Xing

      08/30/2013 at 1:19 pm

      Google is having a systematic meltdown right now. We are investigating.

      • xraiderv1

        08/30/2013 at 7:37 pm

        systematic meltdown, I like that xing, seeing as youtube has seen fit to be..well I cant use the word I want to but suffice it to say anything google related, sans the browser, seems to be having issues.

  6. julie strehl

    08/30/2013 at 1:24 pm

    since i use a library computer without internet explorer i may not be able to get on the site anymore.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/30/2013 at 3:21 pm

      In what way precisely does the update affect your ability to access the site with any of the other supported browsers?

      They are not dropping ALL IE compatibility – they are merely removing the older version (7) from being supported. What you will need to do is go into the Help>About tab on IE and verify the version. I assume the library computers are likely on auto-update, but if they aren’t, you might wish to consult the librarian and advise the option is there.

      • evath

        08/30/2013 at 6:50 pm

        Alternatively, get a flash drive and install Firefox Portable on it, should work on your library’s computers.

    • anonlulz

      08/31/2013 at 12:26 am

      If you use a library computer, I highly suggest you get a PortableApps browser. Take it on a card or flash drive, and you won’t have to worry about privacy or security issues. (Or bookmarks, cookies, versions, so on.)

  7. geogre misty

    08/30/2013 at 1:48 pm

    bring back blocking ads. I hate it.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/30/2013 at 3:30 pm

      Here. Read this.

      Now, why would they want to institute something that would cause them to have to shut down from no revenue? I’ve never noticed FFN asking for donations.

      They have only a few options available, since they allow completely free access:
      1) Use ad revenue to underwrite the cost of the site.
      2) Ask for donations. (You’ve seen them on wikipedia. You really want to see the same thing every time you come on FFN?)

      If they change to a “premium” account option, then they will have to modify several things on site, not to mention I’m not certain how that would affect any existing contracts they have with external entities supplying advertisers.

      Don’t like the ads? There are browser add-ons you can use.

      • HK

        08/30/2013 at 9:48 pm

        They used to have premium accounts, but not in over a decade.

      • anonlulz

        08/31/2013 at 12:27 am

        LOL! You remember that? I always wanted a account, but I was too late for it.

      • Reason

        08/31/2013 at 2:33 am

        The problem you fail to take into account is that ads carry viruses. My personal experience with that is why I would never condemn anyone for “not supporting the site” because they use (or want) a method of avoiding ads.

        I’d happily consider doing something else to support FFN – something that *doesn’t* risk the safety of my computer.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/31/2013 at 12:32 pm

        Reason – I’m not failing to consider it. I’m simply stating that they have a reason for not allowing an ad blocker. If you want one, install the add-on for your browser. It’s that simple.

    • anonlulz

      08/31/2013 at 12:29 am

      You can block ads completely on your own by installing a browser extension called AdBlock Plus. (Regardless of what some moron says, this is THE one you want.)

      • cmcwiki

        08/31/2013 at 5:11 pm

        I freaking love this app, I do weekly bookmark archives and the ads overload my browser making me have to reset it over and over. If I’m on here just to read, i will take off the blocker, otherwise archiving takes priority

  8. While

    08/30/2013 at 1:54 pm

    It’s always Google’s fault isn’t it? 😛 Otherwise glad to see you’re back on track with the updates. I was worried that we’d been forgotten. I know I have adblocker plus (greatest invention since the Internet came around) but is it possible to include an adblocker for the mobile site? Would be great for when I’m on the go and I’m putting up with those annoying ads.

  9. Astra

    08/30/2013 at 2:55 pm

    The forums are displaying inaccurate post times. Posts are showing up as being ‘moments ago’ when they’re not. (I saw this for a post that was supposed to be ‘one hour ago’ and one that was posted around forty minutes ago.)

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/30/2013 at 3:31 pm

      Links or screen shots? Either one would aid tech support in addressing that issue.

    • fems

      08/30/2013 at 4:19 pm

      Yeah, this has been going on for at least a month. I hardly ever look at the forums but I noticed it a few weeks ago after I’d posted in one of those ‘looking for a fic I once read’ threads and it kept saying that I had posted ‘yesterday’ or ‘two days ago’ when it was in fact closer to a week. After a few days it corrected itself although I have no idea whether it was actually correct or simply added a few days, because I didn’t recall when exactly I had posted it.

    • Sparrow9612

      08/30/2013 at 5:57 pm

      That happens from time to time. Refresh the page a few times and wait a bit and the post times should return to normal.

    • Xing

      08/30/2013 at 5:59 pm

      This should be fixed. There was a time sync issue causing the displayed time of forums to be off by a few hours on a random basis.

      • fems

        09/01/2013 at 7:55 am

        It hasn’t been fixed. After your message I checked one of the forums and it kept saying something was posted “two days ago” up until last night, now it says it was posted on the 27th of August.

    • cathy massey

      08/30/2013 at 10:43 pm

      Sounds like they’re rounding that as accurately as they now do story counts.

  10. OkagetheShadowKing

    08/30/2013 at 3:09 pm

    What about the ad blocker?

  11. HK

    08/30/2013 at 3:29 pm

    Cannot sign in to ff.n. Code 2 error.

    • Xing

      08/30/2013 at 5:51 pm

      How are you trying to login? Gmail, Twitter, Facebook?

      • HK

        08/30/2013 at 9:48 pm

        ff.n login, Code Call2 was given. I am on a different computer already pre-logged in from yesterday. I will attempt to reproduce the issue however.

      • HK

        08/30/2013 at 9:50 pm

        Issue not reproducible. Probably been fixed already from whatever patches you applied to something else.

  12. While

    08/30/2013 at 4:28 pm

    Never mind, just found adblocker for the iPod 🙂

  13. DLColvin (llothcat)

    08/30/2013 at 5:01 pm

    Ads are fine to me. Not nearly as obnoxious as elsewhere on the net.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/30/2013 at 5:14 pm

      You must not be getting the full page redirect-your-browser ads then. ‘Cause this is the only site I ever get those on.

      • Erica

        08/30/2013 at 7:55 pm

        I was confused about why people were so bothered about the ads. I’ve also never gotten the full page redirect. That’s strange.

      • DLColvin (llothcat)

        08/30/2013 at 10:11 pm

        Oh yeah.. Forgot about those… I usually go here on my stupid cell phone. Hence why I wanted a simple ” like” button. Its my only way to get on the net while at home. But noooooo.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/30/2013 at 11:08 pm

        You don’t have to like the fact that your suggestion wasn’t popular, but you don’t have to be petulant about it.

      • anonlulz

        08/31/2013 at 12:34 am

        Are you completely sure it’s the website, and not some adware you accidentally installed?

        I’ve seen plenty of people here accusing FFN of very impossible things, but they are infected with adware and spyware. (After they explain their situation, it becomes obvious.)

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/31/2013 at 12:35 pm

        anonlulz – I’m quite certain. Adblock in place, no problem. Of course, those ads may have been obliterated in the last 6 months that I’ve had adblock on. But they are the reason that I will not venture to this site without it enabled.

        Don’t assume I’m an idiot just because I actually know why everyone was so upset about the ads to begin with.

  14. Shan

    08/30/2013 at 5:22 pm

    Don’t know if this has been reported but in the tv section (as far as I know) the filter for stories updated within the last 24 hours isn’t working, my friend just updated her story a few hours ago, yet it doesn’t appear in the recently updated list… Is there a problem there?

    • dmn410

      08/30/2013 at 6:04 pm

      I don’t believe any new/updated stories are being added to any filter. There hasn’t been a story added in “harry Potter” in several hours, and that is unheard of.

  15. Charlie

    08/30/2013 at 6:28 pm

    Same for the glee section! No updates!

  16. 51Dreaming

    08/30/2013 at 6:33 pm

    Yeah, I just updated an Emergency! Story, and the new chapter is there, but the story hasn’t been moved to the top of the page. Geez…

  17. While

    08/30/2013 at 6:44 pm

    Glad I’m not the only one noticing this. It’s happening in the Warriors section as well.

  18. MsLyoness

    08/30/2013 at 6:48 pm

    Please, please, PLEASE increase the size of story covers, that would really up the visual quality. They’re displayed far too small for any of the detail I put into them to be seen. Even making them twice as big would be a huge improvement, because they display at not even three inches tall on my screen! It’s like you’re encouraging people to post screenshots instead of their own work.

    • yemi hikari

      08/30/2013 at 7:04 pm

      No thank you. I’m able to put plenty of detail into the cover art I’ve created without people having a problem seeing it when they click on the cover image to enlarge the picture. Making the covers bigger just make it easier for people to steal the covers they like and can use for their fics as well.

    • anonlulz

      08/31/2013 at 12:36 am

      I use Stylish to block covers. Best invention ever.

      Covers are so useless and ugly. Most people just post fanarts that don’t even belong to them, crappy manips, or their own avatars.

      And it distracts from the real important sellers for any story: the title, the summary, and the tags (info).

      • tiquatue

        08/31/2013 at 6:18 pm

        The default image is the author avatar, so no one is really posting that. Stolen fan art can be reported under abuse, too.

      • yemi hikari

        09/03/2013 at 5:23 pm

        As someone else pointed out, that stuff can be reported to the site admins for removal. What we really need is a way to report images when we come across them. Of course, in the long run it nobody reports it when they see it or chooses not to see it because they have an image blocker on, well… nothings going to be done about it. Of course, if the reason you’re blocking images is to avoid the ones that cause seizures, I don’t blame you for using an image block and thus not reporting images as you come across them.

    • fems

      08/31/2013 at 6:59 am

      This is probably down to whatever device you use to visit FFnet as they show up perfectly fine on my end. If you want a better look you just have to hover your cursor over the ones in the story overview or click on them in-story. There is no need to make them larger, other than to add more stuff making them look cluttered *and* stretching out the story overview format – again.

  19. ~Cherry!~

    08/30/2013 at 7:43 pm

    This is like saying the 0.6% of users don’t matter. What if they don’t want to change because they prefer or find it easier to use the older browsers, and what about those who don’t have the choice of updating the browser?

    When are you going to show any sign of improving the way you sort out abuse reports?

    • KageNoNeko

      08/30/2013 at 8:29 pm

      ~Cherry!~, your arguments against dropping support for IE7 are not persuasive at all. IE7 and older versions of IE require JavaScript to be added to HTML5 websites. This need for this extra JavaScript might be why they are discontinuing IE7.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/30/2013 at 10:20 pm

      Ok, Cherry, let’s offer some suggestions instead of just screaming at them to “fix” it.

      Like I said before, can create an individual e-mail for each major type of abuse.

      abuse-idtheft at fanfiction dot com
      – recommend for claims of identity theft.

      abuse-theft at fanfiction dot com
      – recommend for plagiarism and copyright infringement issues

      abuse-coppa at fanfiction dot com
      – recommend for reporting users who are under the age of 13

      abuse-porn at fanfiction dot com
      – recommend for reporting MA(+) content found on site (including Bitemehoe’s profile picture, and every image uploaded by user 4410056)

      abuse-user at fanfiction dot com
      – recommend for reporting reviews and PMs which are abusive, or in which the user admits to activity against the terms of service, including anything illegal and prosecutable by law (such as contributing to the delinquency of minors)

      abuse-nonfic at fanfiction dot com
      – recommend for non-story content

      If making the new addresses is too onerous, then change the Help page to reflect new tags needed on abuse mail, and set filters on incoming e-mail to sort messages into folders. If users can’t be bothered to add correct tags, then their e-mails will sit in the main folder until such time as the person(s) checking the abuse mail are able to sift through them after having processed e-mails from those users who did add the correct tag.

      Similar e-mails would, of course, be needed for fictionpress – recommend identical only with “fictionpress” instead of fanfiction of course.

      • The Imaginatrix

        08/30/2013 at 11:29 pm

        I’ve never sent in E-mails reporting abuse, choosing instead to use the report features on the site itself. I don’t know whether that makes any difference to the response time.

        Your idea sounds wonderful though. Either separate addresses or specific tags would make the mods’ job so much easier and reports would be attended to faster.

      • Spyridon

        08/30/2013 at 11:42 pm

        That is a lot of emails to set up. I just wonder if breaking them up would increase the efficiency of the abuse system.

      • yemi hikari

        08/30/2013 at 11:52 pm

        They used to have separate e-mails for abuse and category tags so there has to be a reason why they made the change. What would be better is if there was an extra tag we added in for each specific kind of abuse. For example [abuse][under aged user]. It would stream line it for the site admins I think, but could be wrong.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/31/2013 at 12:27 am

        yemi – that was the second part of my suggestion, actually.

      • anonlulz

        08/31/2013 at 12:53 am

        Actually, all those emails could be forwarders for “abuse@” and simply get sorted into the corresponding “Folders” / “Labels” within the “abuse” mailbox. That way they get all reports in one inbox.

        However, a much practical thing is a system like a “bug tracker” system software. There are plenty of those available for free (open source), and can easily be modified to fit this website.

        Users would send in abuse, feedback, and bug reports with a few more options than we currently have, and the reports would be automatically be sorted by priority (defined by the system according to what options the user picked).

      • seila

        08/31/2013 at 1:50 am

        Didn’t the ff net have a bug tracker once upon a time? For like. . . a month?

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/31/2013 at 12:36 pm

        anonlulz – as I said to yemi – that was in the second part of my suggestion. Lovely for ya’ll not to read the whole thing.

    • yemi hikari

      08/30/2013 at 11:50 pm

      Certain people need to get used to the idea of change whether it is updating to a newer browser or facing the fact its time to get a new computer. Eventually they’re going to have to update the browser and/or computer whether they like it or not.

      • seila

        08/31/2013 at 1:55 am

        Getting used to change is the underlying theme for a lot of things lately. . .

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 11:29 am

        This particular change is one that doesn’t just involve ffnet though. There is a certain point you have to upgrade your browsers and computer.

    • anonlulz

      08/31/2013 at 12:40 am

      what about those who don’t have the choice of updating the browser?

      Do they live in a dictatorship of Internet Explorer 7? Because I’ve never heard such bullshit in my life.

      If Windows is such a crappy OS that doesn’t allow you to update IE, then install Chrome, Firefox, Opera, or something else. Or get a better OS that gives you freedom in installing whatever the fuck you want.

      Oooor, you can pay for the devs to keep working on bypassing all the bugs in IE7. (They already have to do so for IE8, which is even worse.)

      • cathy massey

        09/01/2013 at 1:29 am

        Thanks, but I use someone else’s machine, and don’t have the freedom to download anything.

        Some of the other users in the past few days have mentioned using Library machines.

        And please do try to restrain yourself from being so potty-mouthed. There’s no rating system on these comments to screen it.

      • The Imaginatrix

        09/02/2013 at 12:49 am

        My browsers automatically update. That said, I’m aware that some people have not upgraded to more recent versions of Windows or whatever OS they use because buying the software separately is ridiculously expensive. Therefore, their computers are only compatable with older versions of browsers. Thankfully I had Windows 7 installed on my computer when I got it, but the poorer folks and teenagers who don’t have their own computers don’t have as many options.

        And please, don’t be so harsh and jump all over people before you know your facts.

      • yemi hikari

        09/02/2013 at 2:19 am

        Don’t forget the older folks who don’t like change.

        As much as I hate saying this as I do feel bad for these people, it’s something that they’ll have to deal with eventually down the line. Same as when people had to upgrade from much earlier browsers.

  20. stephanie

    08/30/2013 at 7:44 pm

    Ya i have also noticed that recently updated stories aren’t listed.

  21. medleyl

    08/30/2013 at 8:37 pm

    Does anyone know why there haven’t been any new stories added/updated? I posted a new chapter to one of my stories several hours ago and it’s still not visible in its fandom. There also haven’t been any new postings in the “What’s new” heading; it’s still the same as it was earlier today. :/

  22. medleyl

    08/30/2013 at 8:43 pm

    Does anyone know why any of the new/updated stories aren’t being posted? I posted a new chapter to one of my stories several hours ago and it isn’t showing up in its fandom. There also aren’t any new or updated stories posted under the “what’s new” section on :/

  23. Book 'em Again

    08/30/2013 at 8:45 pm

    I will also like to report that fandom pages aren’t showing story updates. I know a friend of mine added a new story this morning and the story still is not showing on the front page with no filters engaged. However, if I go to her profile I can see the story there. So I’m guessing it is a glitch as the wait window has passed.

    • Book 'em Again

      08/30/2013 at 10:30 pm

      That was quick. The issue is fixed. Thanks!

  24. msanimegeek

    08/30/2013 at 9:01 pm

    The Dragon Ball Z section hasn’t had an updated story in about 9 hours

  25. jetsamsrule31

    08/30/2013 at 9:23 pm

    Harry Potter hasn’t updated in at least 5 hours.

    • anonlulz

      08/31/2013 at 1:17 am


      • seila

        08/31/2013 at 1:53 am

        Lol. . .

  26. xraiderv1

    08/30/2013 at 9:42 pm

    any chance its a DOS attack?

    • anonlulz

      08/31/2013 at 1:17 am

      Huh? Been browsing the website for hours, didn’t notice any slowness. Are you sure it’s not your ISP?

      • xraiderv1

        08/31/2013 at 1:22 am

        I actually spent the entire day in starwars the old republic and only exited to check for a friend who’d told me the site was glitching.. I saw nothing but still wanted to ask anyways.

      • anonlulz

        08/31/2013 at 1:30 am

        DoS attacks usually affect the speed of loading, they shouldn’t cause “glitches”. Especially since jQuery, CSS, and other JS libraries are loaded from CDNs (and those are cached locally).

      • xraiderv1

        08/31/2013 at 5:30 am

        *shrugs* I dunno..I was in a game all day, didnt notice anything.

  27. Wingedseerwolf

    08/30/2013 at 10:27 pm

    Does anyone know if google chrome will be affected?

    • anonlulz

      08/31/2013 at 1:18 am

      Affected by what?

  28. DonPiano

    08/30/2013 at 10:39 pm

    Can you please do something about these obviously plagiarizing users; I’ve sent so many abuse emails and yet nothing has been done about them:

    1. Plagiarist: leaves

    Original Story: ella-now

    Original Author:

    2. Plagiarist:


    Original Author:

    Original Story:

    3. Plagiarist: r-s-booty -let-me-be-a-frag

    Original Story: ase-Let-Me-Be-A-Bird

    Original Author:

    4. Plagiarist le

    Date: September 14-17, 2009

    Original Story: ette

    Original Upload Date: May 12, 2006

    Original Author:

    5. Plagiarist:

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    Original Story: In-Ireland

    Offense #5: Not-Ready

    Original Story: orever

    Offense #6: s-Wonder

    Original Story: er

    Offense #7:

    Original Story: Heaven

    8. ts

    Original Fic: About-Me


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    10. ng-Day

    Original Fic: -Revival


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  29. The Imaginatrix

    08/30/2013 at 11:41 pm

    I would appreciate it if the PM feature was updated so we could delete our outbox messages again. I try to keep my inbox relatively clean, but my outbox is so cluttered it covers four or five pages (I haven’t checked the specifics in a while).

    I also don’t like the numbers of stories being rounded off in categories with more than a thousand entries. I like specific numbers and would appreciate them being brought back.

    I also miss the time stamps at the bottom of PMs and forum posts. You only show what time a message was sent going back two-three days, and after that you only show the date.

    Also, it would be nice for individual members to be able to change their timezone in their settings so we who don’t live wherever FFN’s default timezone is don’t have to calculate the actual time things happened.

    Sorry if I’m not being as articulate as usual, but at least I’m not throwing a huge hissy-fit like some people on here. xD

    • yemi hikari

      08/30/2013 at 11:55 pm

      Not saying I don’t want it mind you, but they had to remove said feature because it had unexpected glitches. No telling when they’ll add it back in or if it will be something that never occurs.

      Agreed on the other stuff except for the time zone thing. Posting stories is also reliant on the time system. Also, by having it consistent you know when someone is referring to a particular time that it is the same even if you’re in a different time zone because the site is in sync.

    • fems

      08/31/2013 at 7:21 am

      What is the benefit of deleting PMs in your outbox? I’m being serious here as I have no idea why anyone would remove these. Is it because your computer/tablet/whatever is incredibly old and thus slow when loading the personal messages?

      I just checked and I have over a thousand PMs in my outbox (about 40 pages) and it doesn’t bother me at all. As a matter of fact, I find it useful to check to whom I have already replied when it comes to reviews and it also helps in looking up certain conversations to see what I said to them at the time (also useful for review replies, to make sure you’re not repeating yourself if they review another chapter or story at a later date). After all, I can’t do that in my email as I only have the reviews and PMs sent to me in there, not the outgoing ones.

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 11:25 am

        I’m honestly not sure why people want it. I just know people do want it.

      • The Imaginatrix

        09/02/2013 at 1:01 am

        The most relevant messages remain in my inbox while the rest are deleted. A lot of the messages in my outbox are irrelevant to me now and have been sitting there for most of a year doing nothing but gathering virtual dust. I fail to see how having so many files cluttering up the FFN servers would benefit anyone. It may not be causing any problems, but keeping those messages around is in many cases unnecessary, at least in my opinion.

  30. Spyridon

    08/30/2013 at 11:52 pm

    As for the pairings, how would they work. As yemi said before, actually listing all pairings would be a huge undertaking especially in those fandoms with 20+ characters.

    Would it be where you have character lists and choose from there? And if you do, you should also add Twosome so it would be Character A and two other people to make a threesome. You should cut off at Threesome and the rest would fall under Harem.

    Pairing Character A x Pairing Character B
    Pairing Character C x Pairing Character D

    The only problem would be choosing the who would be chosen as Character A. Usually when I tag something, I list the characters’ names in alphabetical order and I think that should apply with female names appearing AFTER male names.

    So all Harry/Draco/Severus or Harry/Draco/Ginny would be listed under Draco/Twosome.

    But this would only work if the names are kept in order which is not true when it comes to listing characters as of this moment. Plus this is based on if the number of threesomes and moresomes are equal to the number of fics that justify putting them under their own category.

    This is just a suggestion so I would like to discuss how the pairing system might appear.

    • yemi hikari

      08/31/2013 at 12:03 am

      People have suggested that it may be based off the old character system. To which I say they would have to have it separated from the rest of the tags in some manner. There is no telling if there is going to be a limit to the number of pairings that a person can list either. Which would explain why it’s taking so long if it is based off the old character system… there is additional coding needed. In addition it might also add in type of relationship at the end.

      I honestly don’t know because there are too many ways to go about it. Another page entirely where the order was lifted alphabetically by tag name (I know some people wouldn’t like this, but you need to keep things so people can find them.) Crossovers could be included and if you select Draco/Harry you would even get the crossovers. It would though be separate from the filtering system, but you know… it would mean that you could easily see how many stories exist for each pairing as well if they were all listed on one page.

      No typing in your OC’s name though. Some people have suggested it, but honestly… no one’s OC is important enough to be noted as anything more then an OC.

      • Spyridon

        08/31/2013 at 12:18 am

        Well, I wasn’t here around 2000. I only joined Nov 06. Exactly how was the character system back then as I’m not quite understanding how it was done. I think they should only have 2 major pairings. Oh, and if the characters of the major pairings are the main characters, they should leave the character slots empty.

      • anonlulz

        08/31/2013 at 1:04 am

        Doesn’t yemi mean the character system they just replaced? Nothing to do with 2000.

      • seila

        08/31/2013 at 3:04 am

        Okay, this is a bit of a tangent, but . . . How long have we had character lists anyways? I don’t recall even seeing them until 2005-ish. I mostly stayed in smaller fandoms at that time though.

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 9:07 pm

        I had to think about that and I’m going to say character tags existed before that because they were around when I first started searching the site at least in the bigger fandoms which was before I actually joined the site. At least that’s the way I remember it.

      • seila

        09/03/2013 at 2:53 pm

        They were pretty exclusive in any case. It’s nice that fledgling fandoms get filled with character tags right off the bat now. Older stories are less apt to fall off the edge of the world.

        Sometimes I make it a point to go to the very last pages without any filters up to hunt for lost gems.

    • anonlulz

      08/31/2013 at 12:59 am

      Honestly, I think it’d be better to have just one extra drop-down stating the main relation between the characters: Pairing / Characters

      That’s it. Nothing else. No pointless lists of pairings hogging down the system.

      You want to write a pairing fic, you put Pairing, and list the characters in the pairing. Using the same character slots, so it allows from 2 to 4 characters.

      End of problems.

      If people then bitch about having also characters along with a pairing, then we’ll find them and take them to the Antarctic. ‘Nuff with the whining! lol!

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 3:15 am

        It would still need to be separate from the regular tags. By this I mean

        With section
        Without section
        Pairing section

        That way it would hopefully help distinguish between the regular character tags and the pairing character tags.

    • seila

      08/31/2013 at 2:54 am

      anonlulz’s suggestion makes the most sense.

      That accounts for love triangles and other oddities too.

      It wouldn’t work with multiple pairings, but that can of worms sounds like more trouble than it’s worth. And I think no matter what the staff does, some sort of exception will pop up.

      I really don’t think lists would work. That’s like asking the character list to be triplicated.

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 3:17 am

        I wasn’t talking about that kind of list. I was talking more along the lines like the fandom list. Except the site admins have unfortunately rounded the numbers on everything. It would be advantageous for those who only want to read pairing fics as well as for those of us who like looking at fandom trends.

      • seila

        08/31/2013 at 3:41 am

        Ooooooh, okay. That does make more sense. And a full proper page for sorting it all out eliminates the horror of a potential drop down list over a thousand items long.

        . . . That would be interesting to see the bare statistics without any fiddling.

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 11:22 am

        It would also be an incentive for people to use the new character system. Why? If you don’t list your stories via pairings then it won’t be counted in the stats.

    • fems

      08/31/2013 at 7:41 am

      … what?

      That makes no sense whatsoever. What about people who want to write foursomes? I don’t know anyone who does or read such stories but they should have the ability to select such relationships too, as a foursome is something different from a harem: in a foursome all four people have sexual relations with each other, whereas in a harem it’s one person with his (rarely her) personal love slaves. If I’m incorrect about this then you folks really ought to rethink the term because that’s the definition of a harem.

      I also disagree wholeheartedly with placing pairings in alphabetical order, let alone putting men before women! For example, my preferred pairing is [woman]/[man] (this was prior to those ridiculous mushed names) and with your suggestion it would change the entire concept of this ship which has existed for the better part of two decades into [man]/[woman]. Alphabetical changes would depend on how the characters are listed: [initial] [surname] or [first name] [initial surname]? And what about about those who don’t have a surname/only have one name? It would look ridiculous.

      What’s so difficult about using the current character slots for this relationship feature?

      Now (and when there aren’t any relationships):
      Char A · Char B · Char C · Char D

      Incorporated relationship feature (depending on relationship and importance)*:
      Char A/Char B · Char C · Char D
      Char A · Char B/Char C · Char D
      Char A/Char B/Char C · Char D
      Char A/Char B/Char C/Char D
      Char A · Char B/Char C/Char D
      Char A · Char B · Char C/Char D

      And so on, preferably with the relationship indicated in bold or a different color to make it easier to determine whether it’s gen or romance at one glace. This way there wouldn’t be even more character slots as it is contained to just four options and once FFnet decides to add a ‘het, slash, bi’ feature perhaps they could include the harem option as well (as four in a relationship would probably suggest foursome to most, rather than possible harem).

      * If there are characters with a split personality, multiple personalities or aliased they could be listed as Char A|[aka]/Char B in the relationship feature, for example Jekyll | Hyde/Char B.

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 11:20 am

        I they use the current character slots for representing the pairings then we’ll run into the same problem as before. The writers will start using the character tags to represent pairings again. Not to mention the fact if the pairing system is separate from the regular character system the genfic that does happen to have certain focus on particular pairings can place their stories under the romance tags.

        For example, many of my stories involve around character a and character b being the biological parents of character c. Before the new character system I typically labeled the story with character a and character c, or character b and character c and only a select few with character a and character b despite the fact their relationship does play a major role in my stories. People who read specifically looking for character a and character b would overlook my stories in the old system despite the fact I had the pairing in the story. It’s not cut and dry between romantic relationships and non-romantic relationships. There are stories that fall in between the two.

        As for the harem thing, you’re right. I have not come across one harem story which wasn’t about one character making the other characters their personal slaves in fanfiction. There are though stories of the harem genre in that Anime that don’t go this route, though mind you most do particularly when the main is a male and the members are female. At least the harem tag can help people avoid these stories.

      • fems

        08/31/2013 at 1:18 pm


        But adding a relationship feature next to the rating, language, genre(s), chapters, word count, reviews, favorites, followers, publish date, characters slots and completion date would make it look messy! Not to mention confusing, especially if the main characters are also the ones in a relationship because then you’ll be adding them twice. Or perhaps it would be even more confusing to add a/several relationship(s) that don’t match any of the four characters listed!

        Personally, I think it would be best to incorporate the relationship feature into the character slots because if none of your 4 characters are in a relationship then the relationship probably isn’t worth mentioning. If you’re going to give additional slots to those in a relationship (with no limits) then you can add an endless list of characters! That, in turn, would make the new filters kinda obsolete, unless you can search specifically for pairings to include/exclude in your search because by listing all the possible characters the fic will show up for whichever character you filter.

        I thought the definition of genfic was that there is no romance? If one of your main characters is married but the marriage and spouse itself/themselves aren’t important then they shouldn’t be listed in the first place, or people will start adding the nameless spouse of that one minor character whose sister’s son has just married his high school sweetheart too.

        I really don’t understand why you’re against the suggestion I made because in your story it now is:

        Char A · Char B · Char C

        But with my suggestion it would become:

        Char A/Char B · Char C

        Thereby indicating that both characters A and B and their relationship play an important role in the story, together with character C (who happens to be their kid).

        Now, if anyone is going to filter for any of the three characters your story should pop up, because the relationship feature’s display I’m proposing uses the character slots. If anyone is going to look for ship fic with characters A and/or B in it your story should also show up. If you haven’t labeled it romance (because family and general or whatever is more important) then it should still show up if someone is going to use the hypothetical relationship filter I expect to accompany the coming feature. If you have added ‘general’ as a genre it should also still show up for people looking for non-shippy fics if they search for said genre and then they can either decide to read the story because they assume the story isn’t about a romance but does feature the pairing of characters A and B or to not read it because they don’t want any mention of whichever relationship in the story.

        Simple, really.

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 2:09 pm

        You talk about how adding extra slots for pairings would make things look messy but then propose something that is also messy. On top of this the site admins stated this about character order. The order of characters are not important to the site.

        One of the reasons I brought up the pairing list that I did was because it would cover pairings between two people at least without the site admins having to add more to the tags. Actually, the site admins could add an extra tab on a writes profile that specifically lists stories via pairing for each writer. And if they did, that would mean we would have a high chance at getting series as well. Hopeful thinking, yes.

      • Spyridon

        09/01/2013 at 2:38 am

        I think I see Yemi’s point. To differentiate between pairings and characters, you would have to add a drop menu with the option of . or / between each character slot. 4 characters mean adding 3 slots between them.

        Personally, I would prefer having characters and pairings kept separate as sometimes I only look for one character (I’m still wondering if they’ll add something to the exclusion list where stories with only one character listed are separated from the rest). Oh, and while discussing with a friend, she recommended that my suggestion should be readjusted to take advantage of the alphabetized system already existing on the site already, which would list them regardless of gender.

        For Bleack, if one wanted to read Ichigo/Grimmjow/Aizen, another wanted to read Grimmjow/Aizen/Ichigo and a third wanted to read Aizen/Grimmjow/Ichigo, all of those combinations would be listed under Grimmjow/Ichigo/Aizen as in the order they appear first as you go down the character list. The reason I suggested this because I know some people view each version as different from the other with the first being on top, the second in the middle, and the third on the bottom. By alphabetizing the names to the character lists, you can only come up with one possibility.

        As for the split personality, I think they might have addressed that in Bleach as the hollow in the main character is another aspect of him but he gets listed as a separate personality. And considering in DID people, each personality is different from the other personality. They just happen to inhabit the same body so putting Char A[Per 1] would be pointless and cause the name to be elongated. They should have Person 1 be listed as Character B or whatever.

      • yemi hikari

        09/01/2013 at 4:46 am

        I thought the definition of genfic was that there is no romance?

        I didn’t notice this before. There is actually a disagreement on whether a story can be labeled genfic or not if there is some form of romance in the story. One thing that all groups agree on though is that genfic places an emphasis on plot over romantic relationships. I side with the group that believes that genfic isn’t always free of romance and ships.

        The reason I side with this group is because mother/father/child relationships means that these stories are not shipless, and yet one of the things genfic focuses around if the family genre. Whether these stories will have romance between the parents will depend on the plot as well as the parents personality. For example, if you have a parent in canon who is always doting romantically on their spouse you’re always going to have romance in your story because otherwise said parent will be out of character.

        There are other examples.

        @ Spyridon ~ I agree with you on the alphabetical order for the character listings. I can honestly live with Hermione being listed before Ron and Luna being listed before Neville when it comes to pairing order.

        As for Ichigo’s Hollow… I’ll note that every characters zampaktuo is actually listed as a separate character from the person who operates them. Ichigo’s the only character though whose spirits have gotten extra tags.

      • fems

        09/01/2013 at 6:42 am

        @ Spyridon

        Actually, a drop-down menu for relationships wouldn’t be very helpful at all in the filter considering the numerous pairing (let alone threeways and foursomes) options. Therefore a simply box to check for ‘relationships’ between the characters you’re filtering for or something similar would be much easier. Not to mention how many people are already complaining about the filter taking up their entire screen and having to scroll to get to the bottom; can you imagine what it’d look like if they added drop down menus for all possible relationships in the fandom?

        The only reason I mentioned the Jekyll/Hyde thing is because right now two people/personalities inhabiting the same body is indicated by a slash in some fandoms, which would look odd if any relationships are indicated with the same symbol hence my suggestion for using a ‘|’ to separate personalities in one body.

      • seila

        09/02/2013 at 7:40 pm

        In some fandoms, the / mark is used to differentiate between the Japanese and English names. Pick a different symbol, please. I’m glad they finally started using the floating dot because when everything used to be shown with slashes, those categories were an absolute eyesore to page through.

  31. Ness

    08/31/2013 at 8:19 am

    I’m a huge fan of but i have to say that the addition of four person filters is making it really hard to find the stories i want. I usually only search for stories with two particular characters and now I’m getting results that show them plus another two characters that don’t revolve around the pair i’m looking for and that’s not what i want.

    I think there should be an ‘everyone else’ option in the without filters so that if you’ve picked two characters to look for and stated that you don’t want everyone else to come up, it will only look for stories that feature the two characters you want to read about.

    This being said it would also depend on what characters people are choosing to select to represent their story. I feel like many people are picking four people now because they can even if the other two characters are minor in the story and aren’t a part of the pairing.

    Please make this change because right now these four person filters mean i have to go through all of the stories with my characters to find the ones i want because people are putting an extra two characters into their tags just because they appear in the story, never mind that they’re minor characters and we need a way to exclude everyone else that we haven’t selected.

    Thank you

    • yemi hikari

      08/31/2013 at 2:00 pm

      I don’t know if the pairings you looking for are romance or non-romance, but the site admins have made it clear in another blog entry that the character tags were not for tagging pairings in the first place. Since I don’t know if you’re referring to romance pairings or not I don’t know if you’re referring to main characters as the characters within the romance pairing or if you’re actually referring to the main characters as the main characters who move the plot along. With a few exceptions most searches do turn up stories that have been correctly tagged, though I personally haven’t come across such exceptions as of yet. If though you are looking specifically for romance pairing the site admins are planning on adding a true pairing option later on.

  32. Fair Strides

    08/31/2013 at 9:07 am

    How about an option under the character selection for the stories to select all female characters, and the corresponding male option?

    • yemi hikari

      08/31/2013 at 1:46 pm

      No. This would mean the site admins would have to go through and code each character as male or female. This will be problematic when people want to gender bend certain characters. There isn’t a reason for a writer to select “all female” or “all male” either.

      • Fae

        09/01/2013 at 7:47 pm

        You always answer like you own the site. Just let people express themselves. If you don’t agree, just move on. Please. It’s not like this person asked for an explanation from YOU.

      • yemi hikari

        09/05/2013 at 4:22 am

        Let me get this straight. You advise me to not voice my opinion when I don’t agree with someone or something and just move on, yet here you are voicing the opinion that you don’t agree with the way I reply to comments on the blog not bothering to move on.

        I don’t answer like I own the site. I answer like someone who knows how much coding different things take as well as how long it would take to actually code them. I don’t have to own the site or even be an admin to know this stuff.

    • Simoneau

      08/31/2013 at 11:17 pm

      @Fair Strides – what for???

  33. alexandriaZ

    08/31/2013 at 11:35 am

    I’d like to make a comment on the allowed ratings on FFN, I understand the need to shield some readers (young kids) from sexual content. Why can’t there be a warning system? “This is restricted content for viewers over 18”

    If a story is over the Mature rating- require login and CAPCHA?
    So kids and anyone else who doesn’t want to read smut, abuse or anything else, has some warning. But the writers don’t have their work destroyed. This is a desperate plea, please employ a warning system, we come here to “Unleash our Imagination” as our slogan states. Only to have it trampled upon.

    • yemi hikari

      08/31/2013 at 1:44 pm

      Simple. Kids lie about their ages and the MA content just being there is a temptation to read.

      Also… the site rules do not trample on a writer’s ability to unleash their imagination. This is caused by the fact the writer is unable to think outside of the box, nor do they understand what it means to unleash their imagination in the first place.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/31/2013 at 3:11 pm

        Agreed. if one limits their imagination to requiring the characters in their stories to having sex, then that’s not very imaginative. After a while, it’s old hat.

      • cmcwiki

        08/31/2013 at 5:32 pm

        that’s true, i mean they have something like that on affnet but i don’t think its effective at all, i mean you can just type in a random year *18 years prior to this one* and it lets you in just fine.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/31/2013 at 6:47 pm

        First, that’s a legally binding document. It protects AFF. You lie on it, and that’s found out, well…. You broke the law, not the site.

        Second, ages on AFF are verified for registered members. Let’s just make that clear.
        And before *any* troll suggests otherwise, verifications are documented, and there’s a monthly report published on site showing just how many children have been deleted. Bear in mind you’ve got less than a dozen staff members to over a 150,000 members, and not all of that staff is involved in age verification.

        Third, there is no fool-proof system. Google has 10 year olds registered whose parents allow them to be there. Google allows registrants to be charged a fee on their credit card to allow for a correction rather than providing proof of age. So a child could use their parents’ card with or without permission. Unless the charge – which is less than $1 – were to be disputed, the registration is permitted on Google.

        Other sites have other measures.

        The fact in this matter is that in order for FFN to even attempt to have MA content and an enforceable age verification policy, they would have to have staff that would actually be willing to process reports in a timely fashion as well as pursue the verification without reports from users. They haven’t proven that they can process the reports they receive now, much less take on additional measures.

      • alexandriaZ

        08/31/2013 at 6:56 pm

        My point is, basically kids are going to lie, but the rest of the site shouldn’t be punished with ‘purges’ because someone doesn’t know how to keep their ten-year old on the internet.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/31/2013 at 7:19 pm

        There are other sites which allow adult content. Why should this one bow to those whims?

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 9:00 pm

        The people who are being punished are being punished because they broke the site rules. Having to post elsewhere is not a punishment.

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/31/2013 at 3:09 pm

      Because telling children that the information is restricted to viewers over 18 didn’t stop the children from being among the first ones to sign the petition to “bring back” the MA content to the site after the admins’ aborted purge 06/2012.

      A good deal of the mature content I’ve seen of late on site has been uploaded by children. And if you’d like proof of that, look at their profiles – they TELL you that they’re under 18. Then they upload stories with graphic sex – and rape.

      No, the MA rating does not belong. The warning was in place ages ago. It did nothing then to curb children from clicking the “I am over 18” button, and it would do nothing now to stop the children from lying about their ages.

      • Sora

        08/31/2013 at 5:01 pm

        Speaking of MA rating violations.. I have recently come across a story that has explicit content in it. I have reported it about.. three times now and nothing seems to have been done. It now has a complete sex scene in it’s latest chapter..(29). Since you guys seem to respond more to here than with your abuse reports (which by the way.. My browser IE10 seems to have problems with. For some reason it keeps getting a problem saying it has to close it down, then it reloads and does this again when I am typing.). Here is the link to the story:

        And a link to the author:

        Several people have warned this author that the content is not allowed, but they fall back on the whole “They’re other people who are doing this..” excuse. Can you please take care of this before a child comes across it.

        Thank you.

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 9:05 pm

        I noticed that. Interesting how they signed a petition despite the fact you have to be eighteen for your signature to mean anything.

        I’ve also seen this as well. While there are some kids under eighteen who actually know what they’re talking about… I wouldn’t wish their lives on anyone as there is typically a reason why they can write said subject matter well… most don’t know what they’re talking about and instead are just mimicking what they’ve seen others write. They think adding in the MA content makes their writing more “special” instead of trying to work on improving their writing and plots via other means.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/31/2013 at 10:02 pm

        Exactly. PWP is called that because there *is* no plot. If all I ever wanted to read was people having sex, I’d go hang out at Literotica or check out Harlequins from the library.

      • yemi hikari

        09/03/2013 at 5:42 pm

        @ Sora – I’m guessing you’re the anonymous reviewer who reviewed the story? I actually can understand why the site admins haven’t done anything about the story on your previous three reports. The M rating does NOT mean free of adult situations. Please get it out of your head. I took the time to read the scene and while I do believe that it crosses over into MA territory, it is borderline and you should have approached using a signed review and being willing to discuss what was MA content to help this writer instead of pretty much being a jerk about the whole thing. Since it is borderline expect the site admins to give this person a warning as well as ways to change it.

    • The Imaginatrix

      09/02/2013 at 2:58 am

      I have a lot of stories planned in which I fully intend to unleash my imagination, and you know what? None of them will have explicit content. EVER.

      • seila

        09/03/2013 at 2:55 pm

        Well said, Imaginatrix.

  34. xraiderv1

    08/31/2013 at 3:45 pm

    hey, Xing, is google still misbehaving?

  35. alexandriaZ

    08/31/2013 at 7:00 pm

    The purge was originally started because parents complained, and people had their work destroyed without warning. It shouldn’t matter if the stories were made up of decent writing or not, the point is-it isn’t the responsibility of the internet, to monitor the kids. It’s the parent’s

    • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

      08/31/2013 at 7:22 pm

      I agree – it is the parents’ responsibility. But the site also has a responsibility. It’s called “contributing to the delinquency of a minor” – it’s a misdemeanor, and generally punishable by up to one year in jail and/or up to $2500 fine.

      Why do you feel the need to post material on an unregulated site that falls under the auspices of ‘adult’ and would violate that law, and could have you convicted of a misdemeanor?

      Because I assure you, if someone were to pursue the site administrators, they could just as easily pursue the authors/posters of that content. You *are* responsible for what you put in front of a child, despite the numerous profiles making claims to the contrary.

      • yemi hikari

        08/31/2013 at 8:36 pm

        To a point it is the parents responsibility. Anyone whether they be an adult, a sixteen to seventeen year old or even a child under sixteen that their parents have given permission to should be able to go into the sixteen plus section without finding the MA content. In the long run those posting MA content where they know it doesn’t belong are responsible for it being where it doesn’t belong, no one else.

      • Rogue Mudblood (@RogueMudblood)

        08/31/2013 at 10:03 pm

        Yes, dear. I said that.

        “You *are* responsible for what you put in front of a child, despite the numerous profiles making claims to the contrary.”

    • yemi hikari

      08/31/2013 at 8:50 pm

      These people who had their work “destroyed” should have read the site guidelines that clearly stated certain work was not allowed before they even posted them. They posted their work despite the fact they knew it was against the rules. They then act all shocked when it disappeared and whine about the fact they got no warning despite the fact many of the things are spelled out clearly in the guidelines.

      • Simoneau

        08/31/2013 at 9:01 pm

        I was just about to post exactly what yemi said. The only addition I’ll make is this: if they lost their work, it was because they didn’t keep a back-up. If they didn’t keep a back-up, obviously their work wasn’t that valuable to them.

        Sorry, but anyone who knowingly and deliberately flouts the clearly stated guidelines of a privately-owned web space, and who doesn’t care about their work enough to keep their own copy, has no grounds for complaint.

      • cathy massey

        09/01/2013 at 1:37 am

        Amen to that!!

        Have also noticed an increase in slash, ‘slash-lite’ and ;slashy’ work on the K+ thru T screen.

        People, please: All sexual needs to be labeled & on the M pages.

      • Blue-Inked Frost

        09/01/2013 at 2:04 am

        @cathy massey – Slash can be K-rated. Slash != implicit or explicit sex scenes. Low-rated slash stories are not a problem, at least not the way that the word ‘slash’ is most commonly used in fanfic. (Slash = same-sex romantic relationship, which can be any rating from K to M depending on the amount of detail provided.)

      • Spyridon

        09/01/2013 at 2:17 am

        I have to agree with Blue-inked Frost on that one. Slash doesn’t automatically mean that it’s graphic in detail.

      • bienfait

        09/01/2013 at 5:37 pm

        Much as I personally dislike 98 per cent of slash stories (so much of it is so utterly dreadful – there are a few gems, but they’re hidden under a mountain of garbage) I’m going to go along with Blue-Inked Frost, too. The rating depends on the content, not the context. A same-sex couple who go no further than holding hands doesn’t equate in my mind with an M rating, any more than if they were a girl and a boy.

      • Happy

        09/01/2013 at 7:43 pm

        To be fair, it isn’t “spelled out clearly” in the guidelines. MA is not allowed, but what is described as MA material is “Content that is only suitable for mature adults.” That’s pretty vague. I can see where a lot of people get confused. It would probably help a lot if ffnet stated clearly what MA is and M isn’t. “Content that is only suitable for mature adults” is subjective to each person. Plus, the ratings seem to only address violence and sex. I find the religious/race hate fanfics far more worrisome.

      • cathy massey

        09/01/2013 at 10:23 pm

        On a personal level, sites that have too much slash on the opening pages get locked out by our filters, which throw a big ‘banned – pornography’ message across the screen.

        I’ve never tried to get around it – why make trouble that’ll draw the monitoring IT security’s attention, when they’re remarkably generous about letting us use the ‘net for personal browsing at lunch and after-hours, so long as we’re sensible & don’t use too much bandwidth?

        I don’t want to lose this site.

        In addition, yes, low-rated slash is a BIG problem for many people. What may not be a problem in your mind is unacceptable in others’.

        Sexuality of any sort is not for a G – rated audience, as the K or K+ ratings imply.

        Please, folks, so long as this site opens to a default of K – T, discretion should be observed.

      • yemi hikari

        09/02/2013 at 2:16 am

        Sexuality of any sort is not for a G – rated audience, as the K or K+ ratings imply.

        By your logic anything with a het pairing should be listed as PG, or as the ratings for this site goes T. Sexuality does not equate sex. Mind you, most slash fic won’t be of the K or K+ rating but this doesn’t mean all of them are.

      • A.J. Goode

        09/02/2013 at 12:49 pm

        A story that has explicit sexual content is MA, whether the pairing is heterosexual or homosexual. Suggesting that a story is automatically considered “pornography” just because it focuses on a same-sex couple is not only ridiculous, it is offensive and homophobic. Please take a step out of your narrow-minded, judgemental little cave and realize that the entire world isn’t as straight as you are.

        The whole argument over allowing MA material on this site is a waste of time. There are countless OTHER sites that allow it, so why work yourself into a lather trying to get THIS site to change its ways? If you want write erotica, nobody is stopping you. No one has told you not to “unleash your imagination”. Write whatever you want. Just don’t post it HERE.

        How hard is that to understand?

  36. DLColvin (llothcat)

    08/31/2013 at 11:15 pm

    im surprised no one commented on the dismal quality of the works over there at AFF. i only found one story that was passable.

    • yemi hikari

      09/03/2013 at 5:58 pm

      Your argument here wouldn’t be that the site admins should allow the MA content because it would mean you would be able to find MA content without it breaking the rules. I understand what you’re coming from, but one of the problems with this argument is that it would mean an influx of low quality works and you would yet again struggle to find the good work. If this was your argument though don’t mind me.

      One of the reasons MA content was removed those many years ago did have to do with a parent complaining. However, the site admins were also getting a lot of complaints about the quality level of the MA content and if you really think about it the site admins used the parents complaint to justify enacting the change for quality control purposes.

  37. Princess

    09/01/2013 at 7:33 am

    Can you make the actual number of stories visible again, instead of a rounded number? I’ve been tracking the actual number of stories that are written each month for my fav character compared to the number of stories written for the show and other characters, to obtain a percentage for statistical purposes, but now with the new rounded numbers, I am unable to do that. Thank you in advance for any assistance in this matter.

    • yemi hikari

      09/03/2013 at 6:00 pm

      Yes please. I actually follow fandom trends and I can’t do that anymore. Mind you, if you want to do it for the ones on the front page that cross into a hundred K, fine… but not on the actual archive pages and not for the ones that are only around 10K.

  38. The Warty Hogg

    09/01/2013 at 4:04 pm

    Are they ever planning to fix the “Report Abuse” feature. I have no idea what happens to the reports but it is pretty obvious, no one every looks at them. Then we might have a way to get non-compliant stories removed from the site.

    • yemi hikari

      09/03/2013 at 6:02 pm

      Problem is some of the reports sent in are false reports. Case in point is Sora’s case up above. While the story in question is now borderline MA content from what I can tell it was strictly M rated before that and they were trying to report it. The site admins do from what I understand warn writers when the MA content is borderline because many don’t know they’re crossing the line. It’s one of the few times they do warn people. They also have to weed through other reports as well.

      • The Warty Hogg

        09/03/2013 at 6:45 pm

        The reports I tend to send are about copyright infringement and/or plagiarism. Sometimes underage users. They get ignored day after day after day. Actually, month after month after month. Yes, there may be ‘false’ reports but they really should check the reports before a copyright holder sues.
        I really think the ‘report abuse’ is just there to make people think the admins are care about various problems. Push the button and they vanish into the ether.

      • yemi hikari

        09/05/2013 at 4:25 am

        This is where additional tags would help them out so much so they can dig out certain types quicker then they do.

      • The Warty Hogg

        09/05/2013 at 10:18 am

        Problem is, they ignore abuse reports because they refuse to hire adequate staff and/or give them a priority. Tagging has nothing to do with it.

      • yemi hikari

        09/05/2013 at 9:35 pm

        They refuse to hire people?

        Why do people assume that they have money to hire more staff? Particularly after the ad blocker feature was removed form the site/

  39. TheOnyxDragon12

    09/01/2013 at 9:37 pm

    Hello, editors. I was just wondering if you could please continue support for IE7, because some still like the older browser, and because other browsers tend to invade one’s privacy.
    Thank you for considering my say,
    The Onyx Dragon

    • yemi hikari

      09/03/2013 at 6:03 pm

      Please understand that their reason for dropping IE7 support isn’t because they want to but because the browser has become out of date. Out of date browsers are harder to program for and eventually sites do drop support for them.

  40. Stephani D

    09/02/2013 at 12:01 am

    Anyone else unable to fave or follow stories or authors from leaving a review? I used to be able to leave a review and click ‘fave story’ and it would be processed with the review, but now I need to do it separately and it’s kind of annoying.

  41. Alanna

    09/02/2013 at 12:19 am

    Since the latest update, when I go to the mobile site on my phone (Android system), I no longer have the drop-down search feature in the top right corner of the screen. I often used this to search for specific titles and authors.

  42. Nessa

    09/02/2013 at 2:44 am

    I hope you don’t mind me asking this. I’m curious about the hybrid filter you’re working on. How far along are you on it? 🙂

  43. Quest

    09/02/2013 at 1:39 pm
    Please rename the Games – “Wario Ware Inc” category into “Wario”
    Wario may be all about “Wario Ware Inc” today but back in the day there were other Wario games. Such as “Wario Woods”, the “Wario Land” series, and more…

  44. elizabethbarrington

    09/02/2013 at 9:41 pm

    I really wish there was a way to filter out certain things. Like if you don’t want guy x guy romance to sure up (or if that is all you want). When searching through the anime stories there is no way to narrow it down. You can choose specific characters, but that rarely works to weed out yaoi.

  45. Kidwrangler

    09/02/2013 at 11:28 pm

    I would like to briefly go back to the discussion of Windows versions. I continue to run 7 because it’s compatible with my assistive technology. Windows 8 is not compatible. Following the upgrading recommendation would cost me almost a thousand dollars and require I wait until Windows and assistive tech match. Sometime in the future. When you say “not support” please describe briefly what that will mean to people who continue to run 7. Please do not suggest I change browsers, as assistive tech is almost specifically designed to run on Windows.

    • seila

      09/03/2013 at 3:19 pm

      This should answer half of your questions:

      Windows 7 is still supported by Microsoft and will continue to be until 2015. Your system should have automatically updated itself to the service pack.

      Anyways, as long as the mother company is still updating and supporting the product, websites and other companies will continue to make their products compatible, especially with something as main stream as an OS.

      And yeah, I haven’t met many people who actually like Windows 8.

      On a side note, Windows XP still runs many things quite well (the only things I’ve found that won’t run are the fault of the graphics card, not the OS). IE won’t update past version 8 on an XP, but recent versions of firefox are still completely compatible. It’s a well made OS. So is Windows 7. Actually, one of the reasons 7 is so popular is because it’s basically a more streamlined version of XP.

    • fems

      09/03/2013 at 3:25 pm

      If you’re referring to the warning about users having to upgrade in this blog entry, then perhaps you should read it again:

      “Please note we will be dropping support for Internet Explorer 7 (IE7) browser soon which is used by 0.6% of users. This is an advance warning so IE7 users can upgrade to IE8/9 and preferably IE10 which is a very good browser.”

      They are referring to the Internet Explorer browsers, not Windows (i.e. operating system). If that wasn’t what you meant then I have no idea what you’re talking about because there has been no mention of removing support for Windows 7, which is not even relevant since this is a website we’re talking about (for which you need a compatible browser) and not software you have to install on your computer.

  46. Austin R.

    09/03/2013 at 12:18 am

    I have a question, which is not related to this, but I’ve been wondering about for a while. Are reading-the-book fanfictions supposed to be deleted if it’s not just about the books? Like this fanfiction: (ignore the SOPA notice, she’s gonna remove it)

    It’s not just about the books, it’s also about the characters and the original plotlines she finds out. Also, the books have alterations to them, however slight they may be. Would this story get removed? Just curious.

    -Austin R.

  47. olympusisthename

    09/03/2013 at 12:20 am

    I have a quick question.

    If there were reading the book fanfictions that had the book reading but had alterations to the text and several sub-plots other than just the book reading, would the admins remove it? is the story I’m referencing.

    Can someone answer my question, please?

    • yemi hikari

      09/05/2013 at 9:27 pm

      It is still considered copying even if you change some of the wording around or even paraphrase it, so yes… the site admins will remove it once they get to the reports sent in about it.

      • The Warty Hogg

        09/06/2013 at 10:42 am

        If you copy large blocks of copyrighted text, as is usually done in these ‘character reading the book’ stories, you are infringing copyright. Abuse reports are usually ignored but sometimes, if the admins are in the mood, they will be removed. I have reported some blatant copyright infringement cases nearly daily for several months with no results.
        If you reference a few sentences, that is okay. If you copy the entire chapter and insert a comment here and there, nope. And if you copy word for word, page after page, until you have copied the entire book, also a big nope legally, even if you put pages of your own stuff in-between the copied bits, NOPE.

  48. Monette Miracle Turner

    09/03/2013 at 6:09 am

    Why can’t we search by review count yet?

    • bienfait

      09/03/2013 at 3:48 pm

      @Monette Miracle Turner – sorting by review count has been available for some time. Open the Filters box, bring down the “Sort – Update Date” drop-down menu, and select “Reviews”; then click “Apply”

      Whether review count is an effective way to find good stories to read is a whole different discussion, which was exhaustively thrashed out on a previous thread under this blog.

  49. NarutoMasterSage4040

    09/03/2013 at 7:19 am

    Has anyone else been having trouble accessing their mobile accounts? I mean the one that shows up when you look at someone else’s mobile account. When I try to access it, it says “Oops! We are unable to find this page on Most likely you are accessing the site with an outdated link”. I also haven’t been able to view some of my favorited authors’ mobile accounts, but I have been able to view some of my other favorited authors’ mobile accounts just fine. Is this just happening to me? I use the most up-to-date version of chrome on my nook hd+. I have also tried accessing the page from the maxthon browser on my nook and got the same results.

    • Aiko Rin Sayuri

      09/03/2013 at 1:45 pm

      Yes! I have exactly that and now the app won’t let me add stories, search stories or do anything I was able to do this morning! Glad I’m not the only one. Hopefully this will be fixed soon.

  50. Minoa

    09/03/2013 at 7:30 am

    Cant access anything at all in site, it always ask me first to “Save this File”, im using mobile, so what is it this time?! its worse than the problem with filter before!

    • Molomar

      09/03/2013 at 8:18 am

      I’m getting the same exact problem


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